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these it's not

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happening can I have your

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signature on this this is our CL session

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meeting that I conceal for a

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year thank you you're

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welcome I need your signature on there

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oh okay all right full session meeting

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never ready

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yeah the shoe here

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hey on the agenda thing just if you want

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to put it right here I told you I don't

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need one you can share one if that's

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okay with oh we have the Pack I've read

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it you can it I have to

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okay this is no no that was from the

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last oh okay couldn't find a

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date all

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right well I think you and I need to

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talk with boss first

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I'll be around sometime next week if you

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help there's details in there

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that would

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all

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right well I seen these and I informed

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Sarah I was not going to compete

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with Ryan police

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officer my

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yeah it it was turned ter turned it

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Jennifer did you

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anybody I'm going to have toep it up

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yes good all right then when that CL

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it's seven

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all right I think I'll uh call the

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meeting order rise for the Pledge of

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Allegiance

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please I pledge aliance to the flag of

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the United States of America and to the

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Republic for which it stands one nation

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under God indivisible with liberty and

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justice for all

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right we have uh roll call

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please Greg CS here Jennifer Eden here

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Sarah dolman Jersey here Herman Ferguson

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here Dean hos here Chris Retta here Pam

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here all right we'll move into the

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approval of the agenda uh or any

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changes

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um I would like to propose a change I

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would like to move the Communications

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number two uh

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letter from uh how do you pronounce your

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last name CIO CIO uh letter from CIO Law

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Firm I would like to move that down to

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in between uh five and six on the new

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business and I would like to add

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discussion of

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letter and uh uh I'm looking for a

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motion to do that

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please so

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moved I need a second second I would

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like to remind the board

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that if we don't do that tonight uh it's

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going to be on the

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agenda uh what March 4th so I would like

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to get this over and done with tonight

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so we take a vote please can it not be

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discussed the way that it is no

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we can't have an open discussion under

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the communications from what I

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understand we should be able to have a

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discussion and then I want to move it I

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want to move it to the agenda please

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Chuck can we have a discussion in the

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communications on that

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letter if if the item is moved from one

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location on the agend another we can't

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hear you

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if there's a motion to amend the agenda

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to move something from one place to

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another just like any other motion the

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board gets to discuss the motion if

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that's what you're

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asking I think she's asking if it we can

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discuss it under

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Communications there's no reason why the

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board can't discuss it there

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no there's no reason we can't do a

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full-blown discussion on it under

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Communications and take a

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vote a vote for what to resend what the

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letter is

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about that's the to remov commun agenda

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that's what we're trying to

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do if you're changing the agenda you do

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have to vote on that that's what I'm

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asking yes so you have a I have a a

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motion and a second and I'm favor I'm

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looking for this truly about

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transparency it needs to be done yeah if

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if it's not done tonight it's going to

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I'm going to put it on the agenda on the

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4th so well it was also moved it was

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also moved from the last uh couple

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meetings ago at the request of Herman

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and everybody agreed to put it on the

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agenda at the next meeting where

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everyone was present this is the next

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meeting where everyone is present and

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every six of us except Jennifer who

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wasn't here agreed to do that very thing

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so that's been pre-approved in a way and

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now we need to vote on

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it it is on the agenda though it's not

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in it's in Communications it needs to be

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moved to the portion of the agenda under

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new business and that's where we should

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have the appropriate discussion there's

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no law that says it can't be moved uh

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we're taking a motion and a support

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there he's just saying it doesn't if he

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says you can have discuss we're going to

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do we're going to have a vote if it

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doesn't pass I'll move it to the fourth

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and we'll drag this out another two

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weeks so please let's have a vote I

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think Chris is going to be gone though I

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will be gone on the

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4th so we're dragging it out so we'll

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drag it out another month that's what

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the residents are really liking well we

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keep on dragging this on well I just

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want I just want the rest of the board

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except for Jennifer who wasn't here to

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honor their

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agreement that's what you guys let's

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vote can we have a vote you just say all

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in favor all in

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favor I I'll oppose Nay

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n I say we put it on I'll vote we'll do

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it tonight since Chris won't be here

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we'll talk about it thank you her you're

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welcome hi

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so it's added as new business as

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discussion yep discussion of letter and

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it would be item number six with number

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six being number

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seven thank you discussion of letter

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okay any other

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changes all right I'll move motion to

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approve is change

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second already did second we don't have

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right all right uh approval of the

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consent agenda um your regular board

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minutes February 4th close session

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minutes February

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4th treasurers report January

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31st and the clerks warrants and bills

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February 12th so move support all in

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favor

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Communications monthly Bard budget

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2025 I look that

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over I'll make a

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motion to receive and place on file

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second all in favor I I

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oppose motion car okay

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um moving into public

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remarks please keep it to the agenda

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items only on this

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Scott in regards to this number um seven

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now I got to tell the story because um

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from the beginning Scott I'm sorry can

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you go over here so the mic cut and make

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the mic's on please I got to start from

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the beginning when you start

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start um it's so the video can hear you

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as well okay um I came my wife noticed

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the advertisement on Facebook um for

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Bare Naked woods and I'll get to the

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number seven with this story um I saw it

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and I noticed it had nothing to do with

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the w products and it was a far as there

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was a violation of the L I brought it to

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Ross and apparently a letter went out

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that was approved by

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Greg um and make a long story

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short this ball got rolled and all of a

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sudden apparently you went out without

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anybody else knowing right and

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apparently told them they could go ahead

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and disregard the letter from the

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township so without further Ado after

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that then comes the repet they show up

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at bare naked Woods on the

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25th and they are there at 7:30 in the

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morning according to the video that was

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online and Chris is wiring the sound

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system for an event this event that is

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supposed to be not allowed under their

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special Landings permit and the next day

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they were there at this event it was for

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selling a product

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that drops for help and it had nothing

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to do with good products

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sell and

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um my my complaint is and I'm really

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concerned Chris is you're on a planing

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commission and you're on the board and

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you're willfully helping these people

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violate our ordinance you're supposed to

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you sat here and thought for months and

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years about people doing this do you

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understand what you

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did honestly you wired a place for sound

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for an

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event that shouldn't be happening far as

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concerned um we preached and get

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preached and you preached we I did too

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about doing things right in this

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Township and you have assisted this and

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you knew better

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um great I mean for you to go there by

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yourself and discuss this with them

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after the letter went out I mean I'm

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looking at this I can see a couple more

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centers being done and Chris this

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doesn't help you with the fact that they

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want you off the

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planet I'm sorry it's like strike

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two any

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other sure

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just pull

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it uh Mike Mark uh very

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good I just wanted to bring to attention

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uh from the harassment that we're

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getting from local res

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um things that we have been permitted

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from the township right here in our use

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letter talking about classes special

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events all the things that the board

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already approved for our

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business uh the event uh that was just

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spoken about was nothing more than a a

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2hour present very similar to like the

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Tupperware party I shouldn't even have

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to explain all of the things when we

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talked about special events at our

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business it was going to be wood events

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spring and holiday events vendors

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possible things we all had agreed that

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we would provide a rider for insurance

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if we have a an event um but we had

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already talked and preapproved things

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that that we could potentially do at our

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farm

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um so this event which was no selling

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as just mentioned

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here U there was a presentation but the

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uh the harassment publicly Facebook um

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officials that are and and uh people are

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making comments uh derogatory things

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about our business is

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unacceptable so I just wanted to sh sh

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that if there are any issues uh we did

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address them immediately we received a

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letter regarding the event that we had

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um two days prior to the event we

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addressed it immediately I came to the

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Township offices personally we provided

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all the information we had our approvals

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and we had no response after that so I

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just wanted to share that

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information you had approvals from whom

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in the office I talked to Carrie I

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dropped off the information that

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everything was went in the in the file

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whatever that means and it was fine we

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were told it was fine so we had our that

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was

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it it was an event we were going to have

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in our own personal home this is our

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home and our business so we moved the

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event into our pole barn so that we

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could provide um a speaker so people can

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hear um as far as the information of

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Chris wiring the sound system we put

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together a microphone and a speaker so

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that myself my wife people that we

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presenting all right thank you Mike

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thank

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you anyone else yes

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I'm Sally e I'm a long res I'd like to

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thank the board members I know you all

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ran to make things better and um it's

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not an easy

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job what I'm asking now is that you

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figure out how to settle this without

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wasting any more taxpayer time and money

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that you don't go through the court

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systems and waste our money on what

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should be an internal thing that you can

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handle thank you thank you

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Sally sure

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bra hi name's Brad schz live in Township

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um I just want to get up and really

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quickly um reaffirm my support now

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that's the appropriate time to do so um

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for Chris on the Planning Commission um

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as Leon from the board to the Planning

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Commission um I just feel that between

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him and his wife um I I think that their

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breath of knowledge passion they've been

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pit bulls for this Township for how many

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years many of the board members here

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have worked with this family on on

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Special Projects um and to be perfectly

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honest I think he's probably shown up to

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a lot more Planning Commission meetings

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than the planning Commissioners um so I

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think it would be a huge mistake uh once

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you get to that point of discussion um

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regarding that um uh my second order of

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business really quickly is regarding the

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letter that came from the law firm that

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it sounds like uh Chris and Dean hired

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out of their own pocket um that would

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mean that at this point in time right

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now um whatever 7:15 tonight uh the only

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members who have spent money on bringing

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lawsuits toward other members of the

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board has been I think sidal New Jersey

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uh along with the attorney right here is

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that correct

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mik you guys you guys sorry it's had a

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discussion as far as I understand it the

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the township attorney was utilized in

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order to write the cental letter toward

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these

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guys and I disagree with that now these

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guys have paid out of their ET and I

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believe that all three of them should

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have a removal of that centure whether

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it is a formal thing or an informal

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thing that's my thank

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you yeah Kevin all

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right couple Corrections first on his

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this is your Foy document from uh 1230

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2024 you actually reached out against

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the contract of foster Swift and reached

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out to them concerning fo which is now

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part of the contract that's a that's a

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uh uh uh that's a violation right there

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other one uh according to according to

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April 11 2023 it also states that um if

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the applicant this is referring to uh

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bar Woods if the applicant wishes to

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host special events it would be

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considered a minor Amendment to the site

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plan pending approval of this amendment

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the board should NE hang of insurance

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where is that on the agenda well they

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they brought it up I was going to head

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and correct so dear members of the

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Township Board we the under assigned

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residents of Tyrone Township and members

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of the Planning Commission right to

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formally express our deep concern

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regarding the conduct of EX official

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Planning Commission member and Township

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Board member Chris Reta giving his

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recent centure by the Township Board we

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respectfully request that he' be removed

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from his position on the Planning

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Commission without delay as you are

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aware Mr Reta was censured due to his

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involvement in the creation and

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dissemination of an unlawful document

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drafted in collaboration with Mr K and

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Mr hos containing baseless accusations

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of nonfeasance against the Planning

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Commission members this document not

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only misrepresented the actions of

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commission members but also constituted

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a flagrant misuse of authority directly

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undermining public trust and the

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Integrity of the Township's governance

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the principles of accountability

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transparency and ethical leadership that

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this board is in it to uphold were

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blatantly disregarded in this act gr

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beyond the immediate implications of

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this misconduct the circulation of such

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a misleading letter has had far-reaching

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consequences the reputations of

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dedicated individuals serving on the

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Planning Commission have been unfairly

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tarnished and local business owners who

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volunteered their time in service to the

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township have been subjected to undo

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scrutiny and reputational harm false

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accusations particularly those those

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leveled in an official capacity carry

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long-term repercussions that extend

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beyond the individuals directly name

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they erod public confidence in our

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institutions and create unnecessary

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divisions within our community as

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residents who value ethical government

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and responsible leadership we believe

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that maintaining the Integrity of

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Planning Commission of of the Planning

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Commission is of Paramount importance

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the actions of Mr Reta have demonstrated

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a clear departure from these standards

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of conduct that should be expected of

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those in public services given his

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recent Center in the nature of his

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actions it's evident the continued

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presence of the Planning Commission is

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detrimental to both its function and

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credibility we therefore urge the

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Township Board to take immediate action

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by initiating formal proceedings for Mr

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retta's removal from the Planning

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Commission ensuring our Township's

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leadership operates with honesty

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accountability and transparency is not

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only a responsibility of this board but

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also a fundamental expectation of

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residents you serve if further action or

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input is required from the Planning

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Commission to facilitate this process We

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Stand fully prepared to cooperate in any

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way thanks thank you guys for

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matter anybody else

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[Music]

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Kur

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Schultz as a former member of the

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Planning Commission and the board with

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nine years experience on the Planning

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Commission I am just decide myself with

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what the three of you have accomplished

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here a power grab put people on the

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Planning Commission and replace them

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that you don't like

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you three acted and conspired

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together to act as a board without board

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approval then you went and told them to

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destroy the memo that they

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received

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now you're acting as real Risk Managers

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here and financially and fiscally

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responsible who do you think's going to

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pay for a lawsuit against the board by

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board members

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I'm just I can't believe this this is a

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power graft the three of you are trying

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to bully the other people here into

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doing what you want that is not how this

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is supposed to work

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here I'm ashamed to even say I live in

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this Township CU people ask me what the

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hell's going on out here is this the

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city of

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Flint I'm

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embarrassed but the four of you cannot

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buff under to this kind of bullying

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because it's a bullying tactic and it's

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exactly what they want you to do because

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guess what happens you give into them

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now you're going to spend the rest of

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the time here giving into

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them

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so I I have I I'm just just can't even

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imagine what is going through your minds

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right

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now but I certainly am embarrassed to

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say I live in this town ship the way you

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people have taken over here or tried

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to and as far as a member of the board

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being on the Planning Commission of all

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the choices to make you chose someone

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who is suing the

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board now that makes a lot of sense it's

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going to cost us money and you're going

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to have to pay for that you three should

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resign but that I'm sure is not going to

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happen so you leave up to

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recall anyone

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else

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sure um Jim comes lynon wrad I'm all

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kind of new to this I haven't been to

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the meetings recently but I wanted to

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read this my friend sent me it's the

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letter that apparently this thing is

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about

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originally but it

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says I can see it

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here your attendant speaking to the

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Planning Commission I believe your

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attendance record during the 2024

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calendar year at Planning Commission

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meetings less was less than 80% of held

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meetings as a result the Township Board

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is charging you with

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nonfeasance

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um public hearing asking our tenants to

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explain their

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position first of all I hear this

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accusations of baseless accusations

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that's not baseless I don't care to come

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in here and pay several thousand do for

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property taxes if people aren't going to

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show up to their freaking meetings what

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on my family so I agree with this letter

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maybe it got went about wrong but I

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agree with that 100% And I would do the

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same thing if I got like the township

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supervisor or board or whatever my first

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order of business be to clean the mess

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up and if people ain't showing up I

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don't see that it's B I see that it's

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doing your job and I I applaud you for

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that maybe you want to out the wrong way

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I don't know I guess said this is new to

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me

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but this whole centure thing what I see

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sitting back here listening I see a

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whole lot of division you can see the

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tension with

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everyone and I see a lot of people that

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weren't here at these meetings before

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this election and it makes me question I

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watch I watch people's faces and I get a

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pretty good sense of who's cause and

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Division and I would encourage you

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all stop arguing whoever's causing the

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arguing and and I'm questioning here we

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up on these censures and all this stuff

562
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,720
okay fine deal with it who's talking

563
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,798
about these losers that don't show up to

564
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:40,159
their meetings back to the original

565
00:30:36,798 --> 00:30:42,679
issue I got a problem with that as a

566
00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:44,278
taxpayer and I that that seems to get

567
00:30:42,679 --> 00:30:46,159
over it's like somebody's trying to

568
00:30:44,278 --> 00:30:48,240
shine a light to distract me from the

569
00:30:46,159 --> 00:30:50,559
original issue so I I don't get over

570
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,399
that so who are these clowns that don't

571
00:30:50,558 --> 00:30:55,798
show

572
00:30:51,398 --> 00:30:57,038
up and whoever's trying to get them to I

573
00:30:55,798 --> 00:31:00,440
stand with you I don't care if anybody

574
00:30:57,038 --> 00:31:03,638
likes me or not so good for

575
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,639
you thank

576
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,038
you uh is there anyone else

577
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:32,119
Jette Janette up and I'm a tyone

578
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:33,839
Township resident um I'm glad to see

579
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:35,959
this board will actually be discussing

580
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,678
the letter from the attorney thank you

581
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:41,319
for moving it to where it rightfully

582
00:31:37,679 --> 00:31:43,000
belongs um by the way uh something that

583
00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:45,558
people should know that since that

584
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,919
letter was handed out and since it was

585
00:31:45,558 --> 00:31:50,638
taken back the attendance at the

586
00:31:47,919 --> 00:31:54,480
Planning Commission the participation

587
00:31:50,638 --> 00:31:57,119
coming prepared um engaging in the

588
00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:01,399
discussions has been amazing so it

589
00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:07,518
worked thank you Greg for issuing that

590
00:32:01,398 --> 00:32:09,918
letter um I uh see where am

591
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:11,679
I this isn't just another piece of

592
00:32:09,919 --> 00:32:13,720
Correspondence this letter lays out

593
00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:16,399
serious legal concerns that this board

594
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,159
has ignored for far too long and I did

595
00:32:16,398 --> 00:32:20,398
distribute 30 copies of that letter

596
00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:22,960
tonight I found it very surprising that

597
00:32:20,398 --> 00:32:26,119
the page two of the letter was left out

598
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:28,000
of the agenda I see it's back in but I

599
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:29,759
noticed that you didn't label the agenda

600
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,480
is being revised so anybody looking at

601
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:36,038
it would not know to open it up again um

602
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,079
let's not forget that the township

603
00:32:36,038 --> 00:32:40,359
neglected to record the first part of

604
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:42,759
the board meeting where those six of you

605
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:45,759
all clearly agreed to put this letter on

606
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:48,919
the agenda for discussion so I don't

607
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:50,919
know why the two ladies were so against

608
00:32:48,919 --> 00:32:53,480
that tonight but for some reason they

609
00:32:50,919 --> 00:32:55,159
don't want to talk about it um I will

610
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,960
publish that video tomorrow because the

611
00:32:55,159 --> 00:32:58,799
township still doesn't put it on their

612
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,720
website even though I've given them the

613
00:32:58,798 --> 00:33:02,960
missing

614
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:05,079
footage um and then the item for number

615
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,200
six the status of Chris on the Planning

616
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:09,038
Commission um everyone should know he

617
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,360
was unanimously appointed to the

618
00:33:09,038 --> 00:33:14,599
Planning Commission by this specific

619
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:16,240
board um and yet without any public

620
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:18,558
discussion without any state of

621
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,798
justification without any legal reason

622
00:33:18,558 --> 00:33:23,720
his removal is now on the table because

623
00:33:20,798 --> 00:33:25,558
someone's feelings are hurt um if this

624
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,159
board is going to discuss this removal

625
00:33:25,558 --> 00:33:31,158
you owe the township some real answers

626
00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:33,799
as to why is it because he's been too

627
00:33:31,159 --> 00:33:36,120
effective because he refuses to fall in

628
00:33:33,798 --> 00:33:38,079
line and you know the people laughing in

629
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:40,599
the background are the ones that never

630
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:42,879
show up for the meetings that have to do

631
00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:44,519
with solar the solar overlay map by the

632
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,320
way there's a meeting tomorrow night

633
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:50,159
where they're going to add 160 sorry I

634
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:51,319
got off topic but they're distracting me

635
00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:54,080
so call them

636
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:56,038
out um certain board members are afraid

637
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:58,480
of the accountability that he brings and

638
00:33:56,038 --> 00:34:02,359
the questions he asks I think that's

639
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:04,558
what it is so Planning Commission um now

640
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:06,240
has come up here and talked about and

641
00:34:04,558 --> 00:34:08,119
again I'm going to get called out for

642
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:12,440
going off topic so I'll have leave that

643
00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:14,679
one too leave it to later um but I do

644
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,440
believe that this board is afraid of

645
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:18,159
something afraid of being implicated

646
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,639
that that's why you didn't want it

647
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:23,240
discussed the residents can see they

648
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:26,639
know what's happening they will remember

649
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:28,799
it's time to stop these political games

650
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:31,039
stop the retaliation and start doing the

651
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,359
job you were elected to do because this

652
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:37,838
Township belongs to the people not the

653
00:34:34,358 --> 00:34:37,838
status quo thank you

654
00:34:37,878 --> 00:34:42,799
Janette I don't know if it's me but I

655
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:45,719
can't tell if that mic is

656
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,679
working I'm having an issue you know

657
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,239
what it's not

658
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:52,760
but well then the people at home can't

659
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,358
hear that no it wasn't

660
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,920
[Music]

661
00:34:54,358 --> 00:34:59,880
turned but I couldn't hear it

662
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:03,159
I hope the people

663
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,160
are yeah

664
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:24,879
Bill Bill

665
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:28,000
wood I'm billwood a longtime Tyrone

666
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:30,920
Township resident business owner member

667
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,440
of Tyrone Township Planning Commission

668
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,440
I'm writing today to address the effects

669
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:40,159
of a letter I received in December

670
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:43,720
24 notifying me of charging of

671
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:46,358
nonf as well as subsequent derogatory

672
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:50,279
harmful and untrue remarks made about me

673
00:35:46,358 --> 00:35:53,639
at the T Tyrone Township board meeting

674
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:56,800
the comments are public record available

675
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:58,920
for everyone to see the effects cannot

676
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,318
be undone

677
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:05,159
the liable and slander have caused

678
00:36:02,318 --> 00:36:05,159
unnecessary

679
00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:12,039
stress damaged my reputation in business

680
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,559
relationships in the community negative

681
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:15,559
comments travel much further than

682
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:18,159
positive

683
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:20,639
ones I have been approached regarding

684
00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:23,118
these negative comments at work at

685
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:26,799
Social Gatherings how does this fit on

686
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:28,079
the agenda would be discussing of exf

687
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,160
okay

688
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:32,760
all right apologize

689
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:35,078
yeah and when with my family it's

690
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:38,359
impossible to get away from stress

691
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:41,039
negativity and even while on

692
00:36:38,358 --> 00:36:45,039
vacation many ask what is going on at

693
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:47,800
the township centures all unnecessary

694
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:48,800
stress and wasted time and energy could

695
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,920
have been

696
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:54,200
avoided if certain Tyrone Township board

697
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,800
members would have checked the

698
00:36:54,199 --> 00:37:00,439
facts the letter indicated I did not

699
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,440
meet attendant requirement for

700
00:37:00,838 --> 00:37:06,279
2024 this cannot be true since there is

701
00:37:04,358 --> 00:37:08,400
no attendance mandate for Tyrone

702
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:11,519
Township Planning

703
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:15,800
Commission at subsequent board

704
00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:18,719
meeting trustee Chris Retta who's also

705
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:21,680
an ex official member of Tyrone Township

706
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:24,358
Planning Commission stated my attendance

707
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:28,000
was less than

708
00:37:24,358 --> 00:37:30,199
50% that is not true

709
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,760
instead of responding to an untrue and

710
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:35,000
negative statement I asked to meet with

711
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,880
Greg Kars

712
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:41,039
supervisor I

713
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:44,960
discussed my situation how I

714
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:48,079
felt about to slanderous statements on

715
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,000
record with a large audience and a lot

716
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:53,760
of my customers in this

717
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:57,760
room also that he is harming me in a

718
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:59,319
personal gain it seems that is

719
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,319
attempting to get certain members

720
00:37:59,318 --> 00:38:04,119
removed from the Planning

721
00:38:01,318 --> 00:38:07,039
Commission I ask that this

722
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:09,760
liel included in this letter as well as

723
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:12,039
slanderous statements be retracted and

724
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,040
an

725
00:38:12,318 --> 00:38:17,480
apology the meeting seemed to go well

726
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:21,000
with supervisor Kan

727
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:23,079
Kars advised that he would look into it

728
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,760
and I am disappointed to say he never

729
00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:29,440
got back with

730
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:31,839
me I want the the issue

731
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,079
corrected and I haven't heard one thing

732
00:38:31,838 --> 00:38:34,078
from

733
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:42,119
you in the 50 years I've lived in Tyrone

734
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:45,880
Township I've never lodged a complaint

735
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:49,318
with this community or had one issue

736
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:53,280
with this Tyrone Township board or

737
00:38:49,318 --> 00:38:57,920
anything and I asked one time and I get

738
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,920
nothing I am very disappointed

739
00:39:00,838 --> 00:39:07,039
you want this sh or off on is fine if it

740
00:39:03,358 --> 00:39:07,039
on thank you thank

741
00:39:09,260 --> 00:39:16,720
[Applause]

742
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,719
you Zach got his hand up

743
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:23,280
Y Zack Tucker lakebrook drive I'll be

744
00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:27,199
brief I I think it's important that this

745
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:30,560
board takes very seriously the conduct

746
00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:33,719
uh that has happened uh since the

747
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:37,039
election and and I've seen a lot of very

748
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:39,480
very strong things done by this board in

749
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:41,440
the face of threats and attempts at

750
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,119
intimidation I want the board to know

751
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,280
how much I appreciate that I think it's

752
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:47,440
the right thing to do for this Township

753
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,280
make sure that it's run correctly and I

754
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:54,519
appreciate you that's all thank

755
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,519
you thank you

756
00:39:54,570 --> 00:39:57,669
[Music]

757
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:03,119
anybody else anyone

758
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,479
else all

759
00:40:09,318 --> 00:40:17,318
right let's move on to uh unfinished

760
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,318
business have anything

761
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:25,838
that all right we

762
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:29,279
will move in new

763
00:40:25,838 --> 00:40:32,599
business and the the township uh support

764
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,599
Emergency Operations

765
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:43,160
plan this is a plan we have to uh we

766
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:43,159
have to renew every four

767
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:49,199
years and of course uh this year was was

768
00:40:48,199 --> 00:40:52,199
that

769
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:54,439
year um there's usually not a lot of

770
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:58,759
changes to it in fact I don't think

771
00:40:54,440 --> 00:41:02,358
there was any real change to it other

772
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:04,240
than names and phone numbers right well

773
00:41:02,358 --> 00:41:07,078
the township has to appoint someone to

774
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,479
serve as Emergency Management F

775
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:12,680
typically that's a

776
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:15,639
supervisor um we did have a trustee on

777
00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:18,759
there we had David Walker because of his

778
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:21,598
business affiliations with the township

779
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:24,560
um my personal opinion is that it should

780
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:26,880
be Pam so it should be the three of us

781
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:30,400
we are in the office daily and we access

782
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:34,599
it and um she has access to the website

783
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:36,838
answering phones um and email listing of

784
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:38,720
the residents she's able to do that

785
00:41:36,838 --> 00:41:41,078
having a trustee in that position I

786
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:45,639
think does us no good as they would have

787
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:45,640
no way to communicate with the the

788
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:53,838
residents so I think the um Emergency

789
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:57,838
Management Leon should be you

790
00:41:53,838 --> 00:41:57,838
I um

791
00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:04,480
I oppose that uh I be moved up to First

792
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:06,639
alternate in replace of the trustee I

793
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:11,159
think we already did that change and

794
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:12,559
then um I move to elect Pam as clerk as

795
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:15,559
the second

796
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:15,559
alternate

797
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:23,239
support all in favor I

798
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,240
I any

799
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:31,599
oppose all right we do have to um have

800
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:36,159
to approve it approve you as the um

801
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:37,960
Emergency Man management beon too okay

802
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:41,440
so I'll make a motion

803
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:44,920
to um put Greg KS as Emergency

804
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,920
Management laning a

805
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,760
second all in favor I

806
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:58,039
I yeah opposed oppos no I was just

807
00:42:54,679 --> 00:43:00,838
thinking of my our first eer we already

808
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:04,400
had one kind of yeah with the sewer

809
00:43:00,838 --> 00:43:07,440
break y I do have some questions though

810
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:11,480
in light of the rest of the emergency

811
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:13,159
response if I may fire wa okay um just

812
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,119
some spelling errors I'll forward those

813
00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:19,639
to you who who should I for with those

814
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:22,800
two he and I okay um on page 12 at least

815
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:25,400
out of here under Annex B uh

816
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,359
communication and warning it talks about

817
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,838
active public Warning Systems when

818
00:43:27,358 --> 00:43:32,199
instructed to do so the communication

819
00:43:29,838 --> 00:43:35,078
warning checklist here uh warning

820
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:37,118
methods should include sirens and Etc

821
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:42,119
there's a lot of different references to

822
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:44,680
things that um in this plan that we do

823
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:47,039
we need to Define more I mean not

824
00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:48,719
necessarily as to approve the plan but

825
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:51,719
are these things that we should be

826
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,118
defining like how else beside a siren

827
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,039
going off should we be trying to

828
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:57,599
communicate to our residents or warning

829
00:43:55,039 --> 00:44:00,599
right that kind of stuff so that's one

830
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:02,318
of the the items as far as that if you

831
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:06,440
move up to page

832
00:44:02,318 --> 00:44:09,000
16 um I had just a note uh you know

833
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:12,880
response to hazardous uh material spills

834
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,639
like the one we had on us23 last year uh

835
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,200
is that something that needs to get a

836
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:19,078
little bit more you know legs under it

837
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:21,799
as far as emergency response since we

838
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:23,640
came very close to having a disaster um

839
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,880
and that was basically around down at

840
00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:28,759
the bottom of that assist in warning the

841
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:31,599
population and uh you know we were part

842
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,440
of it within a half a mile ourselves and

843
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:35,640
uh it became very obvious that if that

844
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,318
tanker broke broken that may have uh

845
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:41,440
Been In Harm's Way that we didn't get

846
00:44:37,318 --> 00:44:44,159
any uh warnings so maybe further systems

847
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:47,318
or further planning should be put in

848
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:49,799
place for those kinds of things um and

849
00:44:47,318 --> 00:44:53,119
then I had a

850
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:56,359
question uh can can I stop here so if

851
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:58,960
you look at these amended um the acts

852
00:44:56,358 --> 00:45:01,558
fire so so responsible agency it's the

853
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:04,280
fire department so those are that is

854
00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:06,559
their checklist so they would have items

855
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,040
they would have to okay so so when it's

856
00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:10,000
the fire department they have to

857
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:11,639
communicate we don't play a role in

858
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,039
trying to get the message out from a

859
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:16,558
Township perspective we and that's what

860
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:18,558
us three would be utilized to do okay

861
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:21,119
being I'd be interested in seeing that

862
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:24,559
more def broadcast typically we call the

863
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:27,240
radio the TV okay um email blast would

864
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:30,079
be sent out okay that sort of thing and

865
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:33,759
then the door to door is um performed by

866
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:37,280
the police our sherff and state please

867
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:39,559
y all right and then um of course uh

868
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,720
there's on page 19 under environmental

869
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:44,040
health functions water sources

870
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,639
coordinating the monitoring of public

871
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:47,960
and private water sources under appendix

872
00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:50,719
uh or Annex

873
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:53,358
F do we do that I mean we've got huge

874
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,279
concerns with the solar uh the leeching

875
00:45:53,358 --> 00:45:57,279
of other things and uh that may be

876
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:00,880
coming to our community but I don't know

877
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:03,599
that we actively watch water sources as

878
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,200
a Township or is that the responsibility

879
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:07,200
of the county the county is that the

880
00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:09,679
county who does that do they do that do

881
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:11,679
we have a schedule when they are testing

882
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:15,719
water I know they test the water in the

883
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:17,558
Lakes okay um regularly it's good so I

884
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,279
don't live on a lake so I don't know I

885
00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:22,480
apologize for that and uh they send out

886
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,880
kits for you they have your wells

887
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,079
tested or they I shouldn't say they send

888
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,280
them out they they have them available

889
00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:32,359
you can get them okay actually I think

890
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,319
you can pick them up here y this office

891
00:46:32,358 --> 00:46:38,480
and the last point last question I had

892
00:46:34,318 --> 00:46:40,759
was on page 24 uh under Public Safety

893
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,119
that's very important to our community

894
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,400
uh the enforcement under the responsible

895
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:48,119
activities who's responsible for Public

896
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:50,240
Safety is that all of us no Theon County

897
00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:52,800
shff Sheriff okay cuz one of them is

898
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,799
force enforce evacuation orders and

899
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,318
assist in evacuations that would be the

900
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,519
police department that would be the

901
00:46:56,318 --> 00:47:01,960
police department would do that okay and

902
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:04,079
do they ever test having uh you know a

903
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,119
trial evacuation or anything so

904
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:09,160
residents would know what to do does

905
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:10,760
that ever happen we train all the time

906
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:13,598
no I talk about with the residents you

907
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:17,240
know not here with we have our and our

908
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:19,760
plans that will Runo if anything okay

909
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,759
that's all I

910
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:28,399
had so we have to all right so we need a

911
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:34,440
motion to uh approve

912
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:40,079
the emergency plan with changes so moved

913
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:40,079
support all in favor I I I

914
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:45,079
oppose all right

915
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:52,558
carries all right uh item number two the

916
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,520
release of budgeted funds to the

917
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:59,839
Heartland Senior Center

918
00:47:55,519 --> 00:48:02,838
um I we just kind of learned about

919
00:47:59,838 --> 00:48:05,239
this I have one question sorry something

920
00:48:02,838 --> 00:48:07,759
we've been doing for how many years

921
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:11,399
several several years it com under

922
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:13,359
social services and this is where we

923
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,358
provide that service all right yes I

924
00:48:13,358 --> 00:48:19,199
just have one do do we know how many

925
00:48:15,358 --> 00:48:23,558
Tyrone Township residents um participate

926
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:23,558
in the Heartland Senior Activity

927
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:29,079
Center I do not I I stepped or I I

928
00:48:26,838 --> 00:48:30,799
called Kim yesterday and she was going

929
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:32,640
to get me that number she doesn't have

930
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,559
it all

931
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:38,239
Community um just a little footnote for

932
00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:39,839
everybody um I have a little flyer if

933
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:44,000
you guys on it

934
00:48:39,838 --> 00:48:46,639
but um so what we're doing giving the

935
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,239
$4,400 for is for transportation and

936
00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:53,480
resource so the transportation is so

937
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:57,239
everybody who needs a um lift here

938
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,798
locally it's $22 so it helps to pay soon

939
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:02,919
met cost of the buses probably the

940
00:48:59,798 --> 00:49:03,639
drivers um their bus drivers are Sue and

941
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,599
a

942
00:49:03,639 --> 00:49:09,118
Jr um and $4 if they have to go to

943
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:11,240
Brighton and Howell areas which are

944
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:12,920
farther away they only have to pay four

945
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:16,358
they take patients to like kidney

946
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:19,000
dialysis adult uh day Services

947
00:49:16,358 --> 00:49:21,440
pharmacies grocery stores to the senior

948
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,318
center Center and then to medical

949
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:27,440
appointments um it also covers a

950
00:49:24,318 --> 00:49:31,599
resource assistant who giv gives

951
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:35,480
caregiving caregiver referrals a ARP tax

952
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:38,680
Aid um Gleaners food assistance Medicaid

953
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:42,920
Medicare assistance and lowi income

954
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:46,279
assistance um so I think our $44 is well

955
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:50,720
spent um it's a great group I know many

956
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:54,319
seniors 4,400 what did I say 14 44 I'm

957
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:56,358
sorry 4,400 um we have been doing it for

958
00:49:54,318 --> 00:49:58,558
years and I think it's great I know a

959
00:49:56,358 --> 00:50:00,960
lot of of the members um a lot of our

960
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:04,079
residents are members they do have to

961
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:07,519
pay um a yearly fee I believe it's 25 a

962
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:09,798
person or 40 a couple um so this does

963
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:11,759
not pay for anybody's memberships this

964
00:50:09,798 --> 00:50:14,639
is solely for those two

965
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:17,760
items just a subsidy to to them so that

966
00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:20,199
they can make it available yes yep and

967
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:23,000
there's five local townships that go in

968
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:23,000
and pay that same

969
00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:29,798
amount any other question

970
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:33,679
to approve what's that making a motion

971
00:50:29,798 --> 00:50:37,719
to approve supp second support all in

972
00:50:33,679 --> 00:50:37,719
favor I

973
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:41,318
oppose all

974
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:51,000
right

975
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:54,838
uh new business number three Advanced uh

976
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:57,119
Institute Training for the treasure and

977
00:50:54,838 --> 00:50:59,400
the deputy treasure

978
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:04,318
I need to strike Deputy Treasurer um she

979
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:07,639
will not be attending this year um she

980
00:51:04,318 --> 00:51:11,880
has voiced her opinion to me about

981
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:14,879
wanting to retire in four years so she

982
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,559
doesn't think it's necessary to spend

983
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:22,440
monies on training and she's not going

984
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:26,119
to be so um this is um she's too smart

985
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:28,720
anyway um this is for continuing EDS for

986
00:51:26,119 --> 00:51:31,440
my MI CPT which is Michigan certified

987
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:35,838
professional treasure um and I believe I

988
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:38,760
have to have 30 35 credits and these

989
00:51:35,838 --> 00:51:42,039
trainings give you I think it has to be

990
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:45,799
renewed every 3 years um and these

991
00:51:42,039 --> 00:51:45,798
trainings give you credit to keep that

992
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:53,760
certification I'll make a motion for the

993
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:57,480
treasure to attend the event curiosity

994
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,480
the class is 300

995
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:08,599
79 all right uh we have a motion do we

996
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:10,358
have any support all in favor

997
00:52:08,599 --> 00:52:12,559
I

998
00:52:10,358 --> 00:52:15,318
oppose all

999
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:20,200
right item number

1000
00:52:15,318 --> 00:52:23,199
four mamc certification training for the

1001
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:23,199
clerk

1002
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:32,440
this would be the beginning of a

1003
00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:35,919
three-year training for me um which

1004
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:38,480
requires 40 hours per years in a onee

1005
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,920
training after the third year then you

1006
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,920
become

1007
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:51,880
certified okay what's the cost on that

1008
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:54,118
$700 for costes twice as much as a

1009
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,920
treasure mine's only three days hers is

1010
00:52:54,119 --> 00:52:59,960
a week oh okay

1011
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:03,720
getting free day

1012
00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:10,159
yeah I make a motion

1013
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:16,959
support all right uh all in favor I any

1014
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:19,279
oppose all right am good luck

1015
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:23,920
have all

1016
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:28,440
right uh business item number

1017
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,440
five chloride solution

1018
00:53:29,798 --> 00:53:35,318
so on here it says a a rate quote and

1019
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,959
that and then underneath that it says if

1020
00:53:35,318 --> 00:53:39,759
awarded this bid we typically we don't

1021
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:43,400
put this out for bid this is who the

1022
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:45,040
county uses so it's kind of it just goes

1023
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,838
hand inand with the county who the

1024
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:50,798
county uses that's who we use and this

1025
00:53:47,838 --> 00:53:53,558
is their quote for this

1026
00:53:50,798 --> 00:53:56,759
year do we dictator are involved at all

1027
00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:59,559
with what roads get done or is it all we

1028
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:01,319
just it's all gravel roads minus the

1029
00:53:59,559 --> 00:54:05,760
private roads the private roads they

1030
00:54:01,318 --> 00:54:05,759
have to do themselves enti Township to

1031
00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:14,920
okay I make a

1032
00:54:12,199 --> 00:54:21,838
motion

1033
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:26,079
second right all in uh all in favor I I

1034
00:54:21,838 --> 00:54:26,078
oppose all right

1035
00:54:26,519 --> 00:54:29,519
so that motion

1036
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:38,118
fits all right um let we're on to number

1037
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:41,559
six which is the

1038
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:44,559
discussion of the

1039
00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:44,559
letter

1040
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:57,119
from pronounce your name again C CIO CIO

1041
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:57,119
CIO Law Firm um

1042
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:06,519
uh I'd like to ask that uh to have our

1043
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,920
attorney go ahead go through this letter

1044
00:55:06,519 --> 00:55:12,199
and give the supporting documentation he

1045
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:14,240
used to present the letter at this

1046
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:16,960
time all

1047
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:19,679
right um he's going to need can we get

1048
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,679
his laptop hooked up to the

1049
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:25,078
sure

1050
00:55:21,679 --> 00:55:26,199
krisy where would I do that huh pardon

1051
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:27,359
where would I do that set that right

1052
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:29,439
there

1053
00:55:27,358 --> 00:55:30,759
it it'll come up on the big screen yeah

1054
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:35,639
it'll actually show on both these

1055
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:38,599
screens I discuss it is we're going to

1056
00:55:35,639 --> 00:55:38,598
be able to talk to

1057
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:44,280
him I've been wanting to talk to him

1058
00:55:41,559 --> 00:55:46,160
since I received the letter but in the

1059
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:49,880
interest of

1060
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:51,920
transparency I waited till I could do it

1061
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,838
publicly right but you didn't tell the

1062
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:57,039
board and put it on the agenda that way

1063
00:55:54,838 --> 00:55:57,880
agenda what

1064
00:55:57,039 --> 00:56:00,119
all

1065
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:03,440
right

1066
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:05,079
you what did you say sir I said but he

1067
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:08,079
didn't request for it to be on the

1068
00:56:05,079 --> 00:56:10,559
agenda I moved it to the agenda not for

1069
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:15,079
a presentation from an

1070
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:15,079
attorney you put it on Thea is a

1071
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:20,960
discussion discussion of the letter and

1072
00:56:18,039 --> 00:56:23,559
we're asking for discussion I'm asking

1073
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:27,318
the attorney to give the information he

1074
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:30,079
used to create the letter

1075
00:56:27,318 --> 00:56:32,318
okay and we can discuss jennif if you

1076
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:32,318
want

1077
00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:45,719
hand good evening I'm I'm Nick CIO I as

1078
00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:48,719
been been discussed I represent U Mr

1079
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:52,838
opeda and Mr hos just a few things um at

1080
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:54,279
the outset before I get started um as I

1081
00:56:52,838 --> 00:56:56,920
as I mentioned I've been personally

1082
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:59,280
retained by Mr opeda and Mr hos no

1083
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:03,680
Township money has been used in any way

1084
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:06,359
to fund my services and Mr the letters

1085
00:57:03,679 --> 00:57:09,879
that will be discussing also involve um

1086
00:57:06,358 --> 00:57:14,000
Mr KS I don't personally represent Mr KS

1087
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:17,358
um I do believe that the the resolution

1088
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:20,838
to censure um Mr K should be revoked as

1089
00:57:17,358 --> 00:57:23,159
well for the similar reasons uh to those

1090
00:57:20,838 --> 00:57:25,159
as affect my clients their conduct does

1091
00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:28,199
differ differ slightly as I'll discuss

1092
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:30,358
in this presentation But ultimately um

1093
00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:33,279
believe that the centure resolution was

1094
00:57:30,358 --> 00:57:36,480
inappropriate as to all three members um

1095
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:38,760
another uh point of clarification it was

1096
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,358
I guess alleged during public comment

1097
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,640
that there's a lawsuit pending against

1098
00:57:40,358 --> 00:57:45,199
the township that is not true um my

1099
00:57:43,639 --> 00:57:47,440
representation at this point has just

1100
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:50,679
been to advise them regarding the

1101
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:53,400
centure resolution and the um pending

1102
00:57:50,679 --> 00:57:55,719
consideration of Mr reta's removal from

1103
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:59,119
the Planning Commission and to uh

1104
00:57:55,719 --> 00:58:02,358
present their um position to this board

1105
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:05,680
no there's no lawsuit um against the

1106
00:58:02,358 --> 00:58:07,880
township moving to the next slide just

1107
00:58:05,679 --> 00:58:11,480
want to kind of briefly lay out the

1108
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:13,680
facts as as we see them um the

1109
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,440
involvement of of my clients and this

1110
00:58:13,679 --> 00:58:17,558
letter that was sent to planning

1111
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,838
Commissioners was was rather limited

1112
00:58:17,559 --> 00:58:20,519
they assisted in reviewing meeting

1113
00:58:18,838 --> 00:58:22,639
minutes to determine

1114
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:26,159
attendance um they reported their

1115
00:58:22,639 --> 00:58:27,798
findings to Mr K Mr opeda provided an

1116
00:58:26,159 --> 00:58:30,639
initial draft of the language to that

1117
00:58:27,798 --> 00:58:32,559
letter but neither Mr hos nor Mr opeda

1118
00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:35,519
signed the final version of the letter

1119
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:35,519
that was sent to planning

1120
00:58:35,838 --> 00:58:41,199
Commissioners here's the full text of Mr

1121
00:58:38,239 --> 00:58:44,558
opa's draft letter um this was included

1122
00:58:41,199 --> 00:58:46,759
in the disclosed materials uh to a foyer

1123
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:50,480
request that I believe the members of

1124
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:52,240
this board are are familiar with um it

1125
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,000
as show on the next slide it differs

1126
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:55,159
from the final version of the letter

1127
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,039
this is the final version of the letter

1128
00:58:55,159 --> 00:58:58,038
that went out to planning

1129
00:58:59,318 --> 00:59:04,798
Commissioners the repeta draft differs

1130
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:06,159
in in kind of two key ways uh first it

1131
00:59:04,798 --> 00:59:08,199
does not include the language the

1132
00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:10,239
Township Board is charging you my

1133
00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:12,199
understanding um from conversation with

1134
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:13,959
the township attorney is that this is

1135
00:59:12,199 --> 00:59:15,439
this is the language that was really the

1136
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,760
basis for the centure resolution

1137
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,200
although the Cure resolution doesn't

1138
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:21,960
state that um that language is not

1139
00:59:19,199 --> 00:59:24,480
included in in the draft that Mr Reda

1140
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:26,199
prepared it also doesn't State a

1141
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,880
specific date on which the public hear

1142
00:59:26,199 --> 00:59:31,960
in is set to occur and the relevance of

1143
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:35,039
that I I'll discuss later on um but the

1144
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:36,920
way the reped letter was worded it left

1145
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:38,599
an opportunity for the Township Board to

1146
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,639
as a whole to set the date of the

1147
00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:43,599
hearing you know if and when the hearing

1148
00:59:41,639 --> 00:59:46,838
ultimately

1149
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:52,760
occurred so my clients essentially have

1150
00:59:46,838 --> 00:59:55,038
three um problems or three um objections

1151
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,799
to the to the centure as it was

1152
00:59:55,039 --> 00:59:59,359
performed by this board the first was

1153
00:59:56,798 --> 01:00:02,519
with the process that was

1154
00:59:59,358 --> 01:00:04,119
used the resolution was drafted and and

1155
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:06,318
and discussed publicly discussed with

1156
01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:09,240
media Aly even by at least one board

1157
01:00:06,318 --> 01:00:12,519
member before any opportunity for a

1158
01:00:09,239 --> 01:00:15,318
response um or or any notice of the

1159
01:00:12,519 --> 01:00:17,239
allegations given to them personally so

1160
01:00:15,318 --> 01:00:18,639
that their feeling is that they were

1161
01:00:17,239 --> 01:00:21,558
essentially convicted before they were

1162
01:00:18,639 --> 01:00:23,719
even presented with charges um and and

1163
01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:26,319
given the opportunity to defend against

1164
01:00:23,719 --> 01:00:28,519
the allegations the second objection is

1165
01:00:26,318 --> 01:00:29,880
that the township attorney as I

1166
01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:31,559
understand it assists in drafting the

1167
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,200
resolution based on a request from a

1168
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:36,119
single trustee as opposed to request of

1169
01:00:34,199 --> 01:00:38,960
a trustee as a whole that this is

1170
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:41,280
contrary to um long-standing practice

1171
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,639
that attorney engagement come from the

1172
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:47,160
board or at least from the supervisor

1173
01:00:43,639 --> 01:00:47,159
and not from Individual uh

1174
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:53,159
trustees um the next couple slides are

1175
01:00:51,079 --> 01:00:55,559
going to go through some of the

1176
01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:58,679
allegations in the resolution kind of

1177
01:00:55,559 --> 01:01:01,200
line by line uh this I believe is the

1178
01:00:58,679 --> 01:01:04,879
opening allegation in the resolution

1179
01:01:01,199 --> 01:01:06,919
it's that the um Mr opeda and Mr hos I

1180
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:09,000
believe Mr K's resolution St States the

1181
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:11,760
same that they violated Township

1182
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,880
standards and ethical guidelines doesn't

1183
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,680
specify what standards and ethical

1184
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:19,160
guidelines this is referring

1185
01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:20,798
to after the resolution was adopted um

1186
01:01:19,159 --> 01:01:23,279
the Township Clerk was asked to provide

1187
01:01:20,798 --> 01:01:25,280
a copy of those standards and guidelines

1188
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,839
and provided a copy of the state ethics

1189
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:30,200
Act by its plain term the standards in

1190
01:01:27,838 --> 01:01:33,199
in this in the state ethics Act only

1191
01:01:30,199 --> 01:01:35,199
apply to um persons appointed by the

1192
01:01:33,199 --> 01:01:37,519
governor and or another executive

1193
01:01:35,199 --> 01:01:40,480
department or official not to Township

1194
01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:42,480
officers there's a part of the act that

1195
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,798
does apply to Township officers that

1196
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,639
that part of the Act only provides

1197
01:01:43,798 --> 01:01:48,358
whistleblower protections there had a

1198
01:01:46,639 --> 01:01:50,558
prior attorney general interpreted the

1199
01:01:48,358 --> 01:01:53,159
entire act to apply to to local

1200
01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:56,039
officials but those

1201
01:01:53,159 --> 01:01:57,440
um that position is not binding on court

1202
01:01:56,039 --> 01:01:58,720
it's not binding on the township and

1203
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,880
it's plainly inconsistent with the

1204
01:01:58,719 --> 01:02:02,239
wording of the act so our our position

1205
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,640
is that this act doesn't even apply to

1206
01:02:02,239 --> 01:02:07,759
the township and unless the township has

1207
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:09,920
other adopted standards um that that

1208
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:12,920
govern this alleged conduct there's just

1209
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:15,079
simply nothing that that this violated

1210
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:17,480
um on the Township's

1211
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:21,278
books secondly even assuming that the

1212
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:23,240
ACT did apply uh to Township officers

1213
01:02:21,278 --> 01:02:25,559
the alleged conduct doesn't violate the

1214
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:28,278
act as stated the most relevant part of

1215
01:02:25,559 --> 01:02:30,440
the ACT that I could I could find and it

1216
01:02:28,278 --> 01:02:32,278
states a public officer or employee

1217
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:35,318
shall not represent his or her personal

1218
01:02:32,278 --> 01:02:37,719
opinion as that of an agency even if the

1219
01:02:35,318 --> 01:02:40,038
ACT applied there's no violation here

1220
01:02:37,719 --> 01:02:42,358
because the the draft language as

1221
01:02:40,039 --> 01:02:46,079
proposed by Mr aeta solely stated the

1222
01:02:42,358 --> 01:02:47,798
facts of of of non-attendance or of of

1223
01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:50,720
um absences by Planning Commission

1224
01:02:47,798 --> 01:02:52,599
members and just an aside there was some

1225
01:02:50,719 --> 01:02:54,919
discussion of this during the opening

1226
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:57,440
public comment but that does potentially

1227
01:02:54,920 --> 01:03:00,000
constitute non-feed and and grounds for

1228
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,159
removal from from office if a Planning

1229
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,039
Commission plan Commissioners have a

1230
01:03:01,159 --> 01:03:07,239
duty to attend meetings and have a duty

1231
01:03:04,039 --> 01:03:08,960
to um exercise their office which

1232
01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:10,399
requires taking votes on the issues put

1233
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,358
before the Planning Commission if

1234
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:15,318
they're missing meetings without um

1235
01:03:12,358 --> 01:03:19,078
without calls that's the definition of

1236
01:03:15,318 --> 01:03:20,358
of um nonfeasance in off office and is a

1237
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:23,480
potential ground for

1238
01:03:20,358 --> 01:03:26,078
removal continuing on Mr opeda and Mr

1239
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:28,278
hos didn't sign the final version of as

1240
01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:29,559
previously indicated and even the final

1241
01:03:28,278 --> 01:03:32,199
version of the letter doesn't State

1242
01:03:29,559 --> 01:03:34,359
personal opinions which is What's um

1243
01:03:32,199 --> 01:03:36,078
what's what's prohibited by the act it

1244
01:03:34,358 --> 01:03:39,159
announces charges and initiates

1245
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:40,839
proceedings and then um finally Mr opeda

1246
01:03:39,159 --> 01:03:43,399
and Mr hos had a reasonable belief that

1247
01:03:40,838 --> 01:03:45,519
supervisor KS had the authority to to

1248
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,240
initiate proceedings this is explained

1249
01:03:45,519 --> 01:03:50,119
in detail in the letter that I submitted

1250
01:03:47,239 --> 01:03:53,439
to the uh Township board but the

1251
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:54,880
planning enabling act itself states that

1252
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,159
uh Commissioners can be removed from

1253
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,559
Miss Fant mouth feasance and

1254
01:03:57,159 --> 01:04:01,920
nonfeasance based on charges and and

1255
01:03:59,559 --> 01:04:05,039
notice of a hearing but it doesn't say

1256
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:06,960
who has the authority to do that um but

1257
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:08,839
that there's another act that governs

1258
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:11,000
General all Town townships that says

1259
01:04:08,838 --> 01:04:13,239
that the supervisor acts as a legal

1260
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:15,039
agent for the township reading those two

1261
01:04:13,239 --> 01:04:16,558
statutes together I think there's

1262
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:18,440
there's at least a strong argument that

1263
01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:21,079
that the township supervisor does have

1264
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:23,200
the authority to do that and that's

1265
01:04:21,079 --> 01:04:25,839
that's the belief that Mr hos and Mr

1266
01:04:23,199 --> 01:04:28,078
opeta had uh when they when they started

1267
01:04:25,838 --> 01:04:28,078
this

1268
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,079
process moving on to the second

1269
01:04:30,798 --> 01:04:37,079
unsupported

1270
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:39,000
allegation um the the uh the resolution

1271
01:04:37,079 --> 01:04:40,680
accuses them of intentionally trying to

1272
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,239
intimidate planning Commissioners and to

1273
01:04:40,679 --> 01:04:44,960
try to encourage planning Commissioners

1274
01:04:42,239 --> 01:04:46,919
to resign there's no evidence of this

1275
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,000
whatsoever correspondence that was

1276
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,519
disclosed in response to the Foya shows

1277
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,358
that their sole intent was to conduct

1278
01:04:50,519 --> 01:04:54,960
removal hearings pursuant to the

1279
01:04:52,358 --> 01:04:58,679
Michigan planning enabling act there's

1280
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,679
no proof of intentional um

1281
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:05,240
intimidation mve to the third

1282
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:07,880
allegation there's an unsubstantiated

1283
01:05:05,239 --> 01:05:11,318
allegation of violations of the open

1284
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:13,960
meetings act again the open meetings act

1285
01:05:11,318 --> 01:05:15,920
permits sub Quorum discussions this is

1286
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,960
laid out in in the letter that sent a

1287
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:20,039
few weeks ago there's no evidence of

1288
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:22,559
discussion among more than the Quorum of

1289
01:05:20,039 --> 01:05:24,799
members and even even if there were

1290
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:26,440
discussions that are included in that

1291
01:05:24,798 --> 01:05:28,480
correspondence don't constitute

1292
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:31,760
deliberation toward a decision of of the

1293
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:35,400
Township Board the Mr opeta and Mr hos

1294
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:37,799
and Mr KS were discussing whether Mr K

1295
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,760
should should bring charges under the

1296
01:05:37,798 --> 01:05:41,358
mpa again they thought that was

1297
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,440
something that he could unilaterally do

1298
01:05:41,358 --> 01:05:46,318
as Township supervisor and there there's

1299
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,838
just not it doesn't count as

1300
01:05:46,318 --> 01:05:51,318
deliberation towards a Township Board

1301
01:05:48,838 --> 01:05:53,239
decision when Mr K was ultimately the

1302
01:05:51,318 --> 01:05:55,960
the person who who was acting by sending

1303
01:05:53,239 --> 01:05:57,919
the letter finally

1304
01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:00,318
with there's there's no violation

1305
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,119
there's no evidence of a of ma violation

1306
01:06:00,318 --> 01:06:04,119
in this circumstance there are there's

1307
01:06:02,119 --> 01:06:05,838
documented evidence of repeated

1308
01:06:04,119 --> 01:06:09,440
violations by other members of this

1309
01:06:05,838 --> 01:06:11,639
board by voting to go into Clos session

1310
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,318
um under subsection e of the Act without

1311
01:06:11,639 --> 01:06:14,519
stating the name of the lawsuit I

1312
01:06:13,318 --> 01:06:16,838
understand this has been discussed at

1313
01:06:14,519 --> 01:06:18,759
some past meetings um and that the

1314
01:06:16,838 --> 01:06:21,199
practice has now been corrected but for

1315
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:24,680
a period of years this this board has

1316
01:06:21,199 --> 01:06:26,399
been doing that um in in kind of clear

1317
01:06:24,679 --> 01:06:30,639
violation of the

1318
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,639
language as interpreted by the court of

1319
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:38,559
appeals as to the fourth um

1320
01:06:36,679 --> 01:06:41,798
allegation talks about there being

1321
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:43,839
insufficient time for notice of a public

1322
01:06:41,798 --> 01:06:45,519
hearing my understanding is the letter

1323
01:06:43,838 --> 01:06:48,318
was sent in mid December and set a

1324
01:06:45,519 --> 01:06:52,278
hearing date of December

1325
01:06:48,318 --> 01:06:54,960
17 the the mission planning enabling act

1326
01:06:52,278 --> 01:06:57,400
doesn't require publication of notice of

1327
01:06:54,960 --> 01:07:01,358
of hearings so there's no violation

1328
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:05,079
there um and even if there were Mr H and

1329
01:07:01,358 --> 01:07:06,400
Mr retta's draft of the letter didn't

1330
01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:08,318
include any hearing date just said a

1331
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,318
hearing would be set at a at a future

1332
01:07:08,318 --> 01:07:12,159
time so that certain certainly couldn't

1333
01:07:10,318 --> 01:07:13,639
be a basis to censor them because they

1334
01:07:12,159 --> 01:07:18,038
weren't even involved in setting the

1335
01:07:13,639 --> 01:07:21,118
hearing date um and in any event there

1336
01:07:18,039 --> 01:07:25,760
no public no publication was required so

1337
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:25,760
this reason is um unsupported

1338
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,000
finally

1339
01:07:29,318 --> 01:07:34,599
um my client's basic position is that

1340
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,400
that their conduct just doesn't rise to

1341
01:07:34,599 --> 01:07:37,920
the level of censor censor is an

1342
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,440
extraordinary measure that that should

1343
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:42,079
be reserved for serious misconduct even

1344
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,039
if they were mistaken in their belief

1345
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:46,278
that supervisor KS could initiate

1346
01:07:44,039 --> 01:07:50,079
removal proceedings on his own it's a

1347
01:07:46,278 --> 01:07:51,960
good faith um belief and it that doesn't

1348
01:07:50,079 --> 01:07:53,920
warrant censur they were simply trying

1349
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:56,159
to exercise appropriate oversight over

1350
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:59,318
the Planning Commission which is one of

1351
01:07:56,159 --> 01:08:01,278
the responsibilities of this board um as

1352
01:07:59,318 --> 01:08:03,798
Trustees for the township they believe

1353
01:08:01,278 --> 01:08:06,400
that censoring conduct this this Miner

1354
01:08:03,798 --> 01:08:08,639
or based on good fa faith belief could

1355
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,838
CH legitimate oversight activity and

1356
01:08:08,639 --> 01:08:13,798
even dissuade people from running from

1357
01:08:10,838 --> 01:08:15,960
office in future and for that

1358
01:08:13,798 --> 01:08:18,238
reason we'd like to ask the board to

1359
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:20,158
formally resend um all three of the

1360
01:08:18,238 --> 01:08:22,439
cental resolutions that were adopted in

1361
01:08:20,158 --> 01:08:25,039
January pursuant to the process provided

1362
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:27,198
in Robert rules notice of this of making

1363
01:08:25,039 --> 01:08:29,759
this request was given in in at the

1364
01:08:27,198 --> 01:08:32,079
January meeting where this was first

1365
01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:34,000
discussed um so under Robert's Rules it

1366
01:08:32,079 --> 01:08:37,039
would require a majority vote of the

1367
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:39,279
board to resend the resolutions and I'm

1368
01:08:37,039 --> 01:08:42,600
happy to answer any questions that's

1369
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:42,600
that's the extent of my

1370
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:55,440
presentation I turned my

1371
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:58,279
seat thank you so you are uh you are the

1372
01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:01,119
attorney for how many townships I'm the

1373
01:08:58,279 --> 01:09:03,159
attorney for general counsel for one

1374
01:09:01,119 --> 01:09:06,000
Township I represent several others as

1375
01:09:03,158 --> 01:09:09,798
special Council and I

1376
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:12,158
represent three villages and two cities

1377
01:09:09,798 --> 01:09:15,278
as general Council and I Ser a special

1378
01:09:12,158 --> 01:09:15,278
counsel for a number of them as

1379
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:26,759
well and you come

1380
01:09:22,198 --> 01:09:29,278
uh uh highly recommended by your peers

1381
01:09:26,759 --> 01:09:33,039
as one of the more knowledgeable

1382
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:35,359
attorneys in Township law would you um I

1383
01:09:33,039 --> 01:09:38,920
serve on the Michigan Municipal League

1384
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:40,960
um legal defense fund board I I'm most

1385
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:44,158
of my practice is representing

1386
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:46,920
municipalities um that I believe I have

1387
01:09:44,158 --> 01:09:46,920
expertise in this

1388
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,198
area all right

1389
01:09:52,359 --> 01:09:57,120
I I don't have any questions

1390
01:09:57,359 --> 01:10:01,719
you guys have any

1391
01:09:58,719 --> 01:10:01,719
questions

1392
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:07,280
no thank you thank

1393
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:18,119
you is there any other discussion gr

1394
01:10:14,319 --> 01:10:22,039
well I would just like to comment um

1395
01:10:18,119 --> 01:10:25,920
obviously I've been thinking about this

1396
01:10:22,039 --> 01:10:27,640
for several weeks now

1397
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:32,399
and

1398
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:36,600
uh I like uh Dean and Chris I I I like

1399
01:10:32,399 --> 01:10:36,599
you I'm a little disappointed

1400
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:43,760
that our colleagues uh here seem to have

1401
01:10:40,319 --> 01:10:46,840
let mob rule make a decision for them

1402
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:49,039
they uh they listen to these planning

1403
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:51,480
Commissioners verbal opinion and they

1404
01:10:49,039 --> 01:10:53,960
listen to former supervisor they listen

1405
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:56,718
to supporters of the

1406
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:58,079
supervisor they listen to Residents

1407
01:10:56,719 --> 01:11:00,600
isn't that what we're supposed to do

1408
01:10:58,079 --> 01:11:02,399
yeah yeah you listen to their opinion

1409
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,719
you listen to their opinion they make

1410
01:11:02,399 --> 01:11:07,279
decisions on fact you you listen to

1411
01:11:04,719 --> 01:11:12,319
their opinion and you made a

1412
01:11:07,279 --> 01:11:14,599
decision let me finish let me

1413
01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:17,238
finish and don't tell me you didn't

1414
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:21,600
because four two of the four of you come

1415
01:11:17,238 --> 01:11:24,639
up to me and you said Greg we really we

1416
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:27,239
really did not want to do this but we

1417
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,239
had to

1418
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,960
what does that

1419
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,840
mean you didn't want to do it to me but

1420
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:38,480
you had

1421
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:40,639
to I don't I don't get it I don't get it

1422
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:43,559
so Greg I

1423
01:11:40,639 --> 01:11:45,800
um I'm so utterly

1424
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,600
confused I

1425
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:52,400
because I've heard you

1426
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:54,520
quiet thank you I've heard you

1427
01:11:52,399 --> 01:11:55,799
say that you made a mistake you

1428
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,760
shouldn't have done it I've heard you

1429
01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:00,320
say you'd accept the censures I've heard

1430
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:02,280
you say that you made a mistake and you

1431
01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:04,719
were sorry and that you're accountable

1432
01:12:02,279 --> 01:12:07,880
and now you're saying something that is

1433
01:12:04,719 --> 01:12:12,039
in complete contradiction to all of that

1434
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:14,520
I will accept my censor I will I have

1435
01:12:12,039 --> 01:12:17,760
and I I haven't finished

1436
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:21,040
here I'm talking about these two

1437
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:22,920
guys these two guys I do the same thing

1438
01:12:21,039 --> 01:12:25,880
that I did with them I do the same thing

1439
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:29,199
with Pam and Jennifer

1440
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:32,279
and prior to us getting elected I did it

1441
01:12:29,198 --> 01:12:34,559
with you and her we had

1442
01:12:32,279 --> 01:12:37,198
discussions

1443
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:40,280
letter I said I apologize for that

1444
01:12:37,198 --> 01:12:40,279
letter thank

1445
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:49,760
you and I'm not saying to take away my

1446
01:12:46,039 --> 01:12:49,760
censor I'm fine with

1447
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:55,960
it I'm fine with it I don't think these

1448
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:58,198
guys need to be censored so

1449
01:12:55,960 --> 01:13:02,079
sorry I

1450
01:12:58,198 --> 01:13:05,000
talk so where did the language come from

1451
01:13:02,079 --> 01:13:07,600
that specifically says the Township

1452
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:11,760
Board is charging them with nonfeasance

1453
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:14,600
because for me that language and that's

1454
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:16,760
where I was important in

1455
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:19,560
misrepresentation of the board and it

1456
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:22,119
Authority I should have said the

1457
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:24,000
supervisor charges you with where did

1458
01:13:22,119 --> 01:13:26,679
the language come from because I know

1459
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:29,639
what you've told me in conversation and

1460
01:13:26,679 --> 01:13:32,639
it didn't come from you where did that

1461
01:13:29,639 --> 01:13:32,639
sentence come

1462
01:13:33,079 --> 01:13:41,439
from I'm still not Greg you understand

1463
01:13:36,639 --> 01:13:43,800
my question who wrote the sentence the

1464
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,599
Township Board is charging the Planning

1465
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:48,760
Commission with

1466
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:50,159
nonfeasance I did that is not what you

1467
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,639
have said

1468
01:13:50,158 --> 01:13:55,920
previously I wrote that that's not what

1469
01:13:52,639 --> 01:13:58,199
you said and if you remember I remember

1470
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,199
very

1471
01:13:59,198 --> 01:14:04,238
clearly I'd like to say

1472
01:14:01,639 --> 01:14:07,520
something kind of boils down to one

1473
01:14:04,238 --> 01:14:09,718
thing on December 3rd before the letter

1474
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:12,280
was sent out on the 10th I ask our

1475
01:14:09,719 --> 01:14:14,520
attorney do we as a board have any

1476
01:14:12,279 --> 01:14:16,960
control over the Planning Commission and

1477
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:20,679
I will ask you that again tonight

1478
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:22,880
Chuck as a board do we have any control

1479
01:14:20,679 --> 01:14:25,199
or any jurisdiction or anything over the

1480
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:28,639
Planning Commission you don't have

1481
01:14:25,198 --> 01:14:31,039
General control over that the only could

1482
01:14:28,639 --> 01:14:32,440
you talk in the mic yep you don't have

1483
01:14:31,039 --> 01:14:34,479
General control over the Planning

1484
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:37,879
Commission it's a separate entity

1485
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:40,039
created by law just like the PC has no

1486
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:42,600
control over the Township Board of

1487
01:14:40,039 --> 01:14:45,000
Trustees the only role that the Board of

1488
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:48,639
Trustees has is when there's a vacancy

1489
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:50,800
it fills that vacancy and as we all know

1490
01:14:48,639 --> 01:14:52,719
if there is a charge of malfeasance

1491
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,840
misfeasance or nonfeasance it has the

1492
01:14:52,719 --> 01:14:56,960
right to remove a member other than that

1493
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,800
the the Township board has no control

1494
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,600
over

1495
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:02,679
them and also is there anything in our

1496
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,679
ordinance that states that they have to

1497
01:15:02,679 --> 01:15:06,480
attend a certain amount of

1498
01:15:04,679 --> 01:15:08,119
meetings there's nothing in the

1499
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,799
ordinance and as I recall there's

1500
01:15:08,119 --> 01:15:12,479
nothing in the bylaws that address that

1501
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:15,000
either and I'm talking about the PC

1502
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,678
bylaws so I have a business and every

1503
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,399
person that comes to me they know the

1504
01:15:16,679 --> 01:15:20,399
hours they're working the things they're

1505
01:15:18,399 --> 01:15:22,279
doing and if they don't show up then

1506
01:15:20,399 --> 01:15:24,079
they know that but here there is nothing

1507
01:15:22,279 --> 01:15:25,479
with the Planning Commission that states

1508
01:15:24,079 --> 01:15:27,559
that they have to attend a certain

1509
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,718
amount even if I didn't like their

1510
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:32,000
attendance I couldn't remove them even

1511
01:15:29,719 --> 01:15:35,198
if I wanted to is that correct I would

1512
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,198
agree thank

1513
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:45,080
you and those conversations were made

1514
01:15:43,158 --> 01:15:46,319
before this letter was put out yes one

1515
01:15:45,079 --> 01:15:48,960
week

1516
01:15:46,319 --> 01:15:51,119
before one week before and they went

1517
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:55,359
ahead and did it anyhow and Chris even

1518
01:15:51,119 --> 01:15:57,319
stated Define control

1519
01:15:55,359 --> 01:15:59,399
that was at a board meeting yes well

1520
01:15:57,319 --> 01:16:02,840
there are certain elements of control

1521
01:15:59,399 --> 01:16:06,439
when you have the ability when you could

1522
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:08,480
you you hey hey hey hey hey

1523
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:12,439
hey none of

1524
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:15,718
that go ahead to be able to charge a

1525
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:18,879
planning commissioner with

1526
01:16:15,719 --> 01:16:22,920
misfeasance malfeasance or

1527
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:24,639
nonfeasance is a measure of control yes

1528
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:27,560
who has the measure who has the control

1529
01:16:24,639 --> 01:16:29,920
we don't he said we don't no that's not

1530
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:31,719
what he's saying that's exactly that's

1531
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,800
not what he's saying okay you're not

1532
01:16:31,719 --> 01:16:36,560
here you're you're you're thinking

1533
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:39,840
General can you re re re what you said

1534
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,840
about m not feance and misfeasance who

1535
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,400
has that

1536
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:46,920
control the Township Board according to

1537
01:16:43,399 --> 01:16:49,039
statute can charge a PC member with any

1538
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:51,399
of those three and then the Township

1539
01:16:49,039 --> 01:16:53,519
Board would have a right to remove them

1540
01:16:51,399 --> 01:16:55,399
for a reason though we do have that for

1541
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,120
the charges they have to sub anate the

1542
01:16:55,399 --> 01:16:59,839
charges that's correct have that control

1543
01:16:57,119 --> 01:17:02,319
correct you have that power to do so yes

1544
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:04,760
just like you have the power to fill a

1545
01:17:02,319 --> 01:17:07,158
vacancy if somebody gets sick can't

1546
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:09,600
attend anymore if they die if they move

1547
01:17:07,158 --> 01:17:11,399
you have that right but as far as the

1548
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:16,360
day-to-day activities of the Planning

1549
01:17:11,399 --> 01:17:20,759
Commission absolutely not no I it and uh

1550
01:17:16,359 --> 01:17:24,238
Mr Wood mayor are the day-to-day

1551
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:25,600
activities outside of how attendance

1552
01:17:24,238 --> 01:17:27,359
impacts

1553
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,600
the ability of a planning commissioner

1554
01:17:27,359 --> 01:17:31,799
to make decisions and contribute to the

1555
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,079
conversations necessary are those

1556
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,800
day-to-day

1557
01:17:33,079 --> 01:17:37,920
activities in question

1558
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:40,480
here what do you mean are they in

1559
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:44,000
question here I mean is the does the

1560
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:45,399
does the attendance impact the

1561
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,560
day-to-day

1562
01:17:45,399 --> 01:17:50,679
activities well that would be his

1563
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:53,120
opinion nobody can say that they be

1564
01:17:50,679 --> 01:17:55,520
could be at home doing their research

1565
01:17:53,119 --> 01:17:58,238
and whatever they have to do

1566
01:17:55,520 --> 01:18:00,719
right but the attendance of the meeting

1567
01:17:58,238 --> 01:18:02,519
yes but their meeting you're not voting

1568
01:18:00,719 --> 01:18:04,800
yes but their bylaws do not give you a

1569
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:07,000
percentage do not say they have to be in

1570
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,279
attendance for 80% they don't you

1571
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:12,079
charged them with that and your

1572
01:18:08,279 --> 01:18:15,359
attendance on the zba was 70 some

1573
01:18:12,079 --> 01:18:17,519
per Just for information in case anybody

1574
01:18:15,359 --> 01:18:17,519
was

1575
01:18:18,119 --> 01:18:24,158
wondering if there isn't any discussion

1576
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:26,079
I'd like to vote kein black what are we

1577
01:18:24,158 --> 01:18:28,439
voting on

1578
01:18:26,079 --> 01:18:30,960
any further

1579
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:34,399
discussion I'll make a motion to resend

1580
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:37,639
all three of the uh censor

1581
01:18:34,399 --> 01:18:41,158
resolutions for Greg Dean and

1582
01:18:37,639 --> 01:18:41,159
myself I'll support

1583
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,639
it we vote or just

1584
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:50,800
a oh have a roll call

1585
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:54,280
vote it's not a

1586
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:58,119
resolution a resolution do a roll call

1587
01:18:54,279 --> 01:19:00,719
let's roll call okay so Sarah dolman

1588
01:18:58,119 --> 01:19:00,719
Jersey

1589
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:05,760
no R Ferguson

1590
01:19:06,319 --> 01:19:15,000
no Pam moer

1591
01:19:10,238 --> 01:19:15,000
no Greg CS

1592
01:19:15,039 --> 01:19:19,039
yes Jennifer Eden

1593
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:28,719
no Dean hos yes

1594
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:31,960
Chris Reta

1595
01:19:28,719 --> 01:19:31,960
yes next

1596
01:19:32,158 --> 01:19:36,359
steps motion failed

1597
01:19:37,198 --> 01:19:44,000
yep okay moving on

1598
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:48,839
to number

1599
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:50,679
seven status of Chris reta's x uh

1600
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:53,679
official membership on the Planning

1601
01:19:50,679 --> 01:19:53,679
Commission

1602
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:08,679
uh we have any

1603
01:20:04,079 --> 01:20:11,639
comments any questions I have a comment

1604
01:20:08,679 --> 01:20:13,199
okay I apologize I wrote it down because

1605
01:20:11,639 --> 01:20:16,960
not clear thinking

1606
01:20:13,198 --> 01:20:19,079
today Chris Reta conspired to conceive

1607
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:21,880
and actively participate in drafting a

1608
01:20:19,079 --> 01:20:23,800
letter to the PC informing them that the

1609
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:26,480
Township Board was charging them with

1610
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:28,800
non- feis and requested they appear

1611
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:31,599
before the board for a public hearing to

1612
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:34,400
explain their position most of the board

1613
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:37,520
had now knowledge of the letter nor did

1614
01:20:34,399 --> 01:20:40,158
we vote on such an action Chris stated

1615
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:43,199
that he helped write draft the letter to

1616
01:20:40,158 --> 01:20:46,000
the PC he noted that at a board meeting

1617
01:20:43,198 --> 01:20:49,039
sitting at this table Chris was present

1618
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:52,560
upon the letter delivering at the PC

1619
01:20:49,039 --> 01:20:54,639
meeting knowing the letter had held

1620
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,920
false statements that would advert

1621
01:20:54,639 --> 01:20:59,960
verely impact fellow planning

1622
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:02,639
Commissioners we have heard from the PC

1623
01:20:59,960 --> 01:21:04,639
members and the mistrust they now have

1624
01:21:02,639 --> 01:21:08,159
in

1625
01:21:04,639 --> 01:21:10,520
Chris they have Justified their reasons

1626
01:21:08,158 --> 01:21:13,079
why they would like him to be removed

1627
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:16,400
from ex ailio member as the ex ailio

1628
01:21:13,079 --> 01:21:19,880
member so I asked the board how can we

1629
01:21:16,399 --> 01:21:24,158
ask the PC or expect them the members to

1630
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:24,159
work with Mr Rupa

1631
01:21:32,359 --> 01:21:37,319
Mr Reta was directly involved in

1632
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:39,320
misrepresenting the board in conceiving

1633
01:21:37,319 --> 01:21:41,599
Drafting and revising the letter

1634
01:21:39,319 --> 01:21:42,840
charging the Planning Commission members

1635
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:46,199
with

1636
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:47,880
nonfeasance well on the PC Mr Reta

1637
01:21:46,198 --> 01:21:50,238
conspired against the Planning

1638
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:52,319
Commission to undermine the Planning

1639
01:21:50,238 --> 01:21:55,039
Commission by trying to remove other

1640
01:21:52,319 --> 01:21:57,639
members these actions are not in the

1641
01:21:55,039 --> 01:21:59,439
best interest of the Planning Commission

1642
01:21:57,639 --> 01:22:01,920
nor are they in the best interest of

1643
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,919
Tyrone

1644
01:22:11,679 --> 01:22:17,960
Township any other

1645
01:22:14,119 --> 01:22:17,960
comments sure I'll read a

1646
01:22:20,639 --> 01:22:25,800
statement I think it's important to

1647
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:29,359
understand that uh

1648
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:31,440
you know uh God gives us great

1649
01:22:29,359 --> 01:22:32,880
responsibility over Authority positions

1650
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:37,439
like

1651
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:38,760
this we swore to uphold the Constitution

1652
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,039
of the United States and the

1653
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,679
constitution of

1654
01:22:40,039 --> 01:22:45,679
Michigan townships are governed by laws

1655
01:22:42,679 --> 01:22:48,520
and these con these uh constitutions

1656
01:22:45,679 --> 01:22:51,158
also and also within the statutory laws

1657
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:52,880
and even our ordinances our laws that

1658
01:22:51,158 --> 01:22:55,359
our residents have to

1659
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:58,719
fulfill when we work with laws we're

1660
01:22:55,359 --> 01:23:02,359
lawful when we work within them when we

1661
01:22:58,719 --> 01:23:05,039
work within ethical standards we are

1662
01:23:02,359 --> 01:23:07,198
ethical unless there's evidence of laws

1663
01:23:05,039 --> 01:23:10,880
being broken it's not appropriate to

1664
01:23:07,198 --> 01:23:13,399
consider someone unlawful or

1665
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:16,840
unethical without

1666
01:23:13,399 --> 01:23:19,000
evidence and where there is evidence

1667
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:21,279
then there can be

1668
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:23,119
actions but you still haven't produced

1669
01:23:21,279 --> 01:23:27,039
any

1670
01:23:23,119 --> 01:23:30,198
evidence you have opinion and

1671
01:23:27,039 --> 01:23:31,760
conjecture so we're at a Crossroads do

1672
01:23:30,198 --> 01:23:33,678
we as a Township Board want to move

1673
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:36,840
forward with important

1674
01:23:33,679 --> 01:23:40,480
decisions uh and actions based on what

1675
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:42,560
possibly might be the case or oh

1676
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:44,479
everybody knows that what ethics were

1677
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:47,120
violated I think that was trusty dolman

1678
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:49,759
Jersey's perspective these should not be

1679
01:23:47,119 --> 01:23:54,639
the foundation of how we operate a

1680
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:54,639
Township but that's what's happened

1681
01:23:55,158 --> 01:24:00,039
I understand that sometimes things may

1682
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:01,198
happen differently but different doesn't

1683
01:24:00,039 --> 01:24:04,399
constitute

1684
01:24:01,198 --> 01:24:05,839
unlawful and different does not un uh

1685
01:24:04,399 --> 01:24:08,319
constitute

1686
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:11,199
unethical it's just

1687
01:24:08,319 --> 01:24:13,559
different but we are still a nation

1688
01:24:11,198 --> 01:24:15,158
state county and Township where one is

1689
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:19,480
presumed

1690
01:24:15,158 --> 01:24:21,439
innocent until proven guilty from an

1691
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:23,919
evidentiary standpoint and I would

1692
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:27,359
assume that the lawyers in this uh uh

1693
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:30,039
this room would probably agree with

1694
01:24:27,359 --> 01:24:33,158
that not the presumption of guilt based

1695
01:24:30,039 --> 01:24:35,439
on what possibly breaking a law or

1696
01:24:33,158 --> 01:24:37,759
suggesting an opinion that everyone

1697
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:40,559
knows what you did these should not be

1698
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:43,840
the foundation of how we operate and

1699
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:45,520
especially not operate this board but

1700
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:47,639
that's what's

1701
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:51,159
happened I believe we should move

1702
01:24:47,639 --> 01:24:53,920
forward and really

1703
01:24:51,158 --> 01:24:55,439
consider leaving the emotional aspects

1704
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:59,840
out

1705
01:24:55,439 --> 01:25:03,039
I believe we should be really focused on

1706
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:05,520
facts attendance records are facts

1707
01:25:03,039 --> 01:25:08,439
they're not made up they're pulled from

1708
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:12,760
the meeting minutes they're assembled

1709
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:16,479
and they're presented facts not

1710
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:20,520
opinion so this is the place to start we

1711
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:24,718
make a decision a juncture that we're at

1712
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:27,960
how do you as a board want to govern by

1713
01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:31,279
law by evidence by

1714
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:34,359
innocent before proven

1715
01:25:31,279 --> 01:25:37,960
guilty we had no opportunity to be

1716
01:25:34,359 --> 01:25:39,719
innocent before proven guilty the cental

1717
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:42,319
resolutions were

1718
01:25:39,719 --> 01:25:46,399
published on a

1719
01:25:42,319 --> 01:25:49,960
Thursday with the meeting packet as

1720
01:25:46,399 --> 01:25:52,000
convicted not discussing whether they

1721
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:55,439
should be censor

1722
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:59,560
resolutions it was a conviction

1723
01:25:55,439 --> 01:26:01,279
letter before the board even was

1724
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:04,639
discussing

1725
01:26:01,279 --> 01:26:08,000
it and our TR and our trustee at the end

1726
01:26:04,639 --> 01:26:11,400
took it to the media with the convicted

1727
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:15,679
letters to do that it was a excuse me

1728
01:26:11,399 --> 01:26:17,960
I'm speaking I Robert Rule of Order I'm

1729
01:26:15,679 --> 01:26:21,000
speaking do not

1730
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:22,960
interrupt so this is the way that you

1731
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:26,238
want to operate thank you this is the

1732
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,239
way you want to operate

1733
01:26:26,719 --> 01:26:33,158
wow so I'm just telling you to make a

1734
01:26:30,158 --> 01:26:35,039
choice on how you want this Township to

1735
01:26:33,158 --> 01:26:37,319
run Do You Want It by facts do you want

1736
01:26:35,039 --> 01:26:39,479
it by evidence do you want it by legal

1737
01:26:37,319 --> 01:26:43,079
means or do you want it by opinion and

1738
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:45,238
conjecture and feelings and

1739
01:26:43,079 --> 01:26:47,279
emotions that's what we're dis that's

1740
01:26:45,238 --> 01:26:50,399
what we're facing here that's exactly

1741
01:26:47,279 --> 01:26:53,399
what we're facing I'm finished thank you

1742
01:26:50,399 --> 01:26:53,399
Chris

1743
01:26:55,319 --> 01:26:57,759
anybody

1744
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:06,719
else I uh I just want to say that I uh

1745
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:09,960
regarding the removal of Chris from the

1746
01:27:06,719 --> 01:27:13,158
Planning Commission I

1747
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:16,719
uh sorry planning Commissioners but I I

1748
01:27:13,158 --> 01:27:20,079
I I can't be intimidated or

1749
01:27:16,719 --> 01:27:26,319
pressured into supporting such a move I

1750
01:27:20,079 --> 01:27:29,079
I can't I can't I'm sorry I can't I I

1751
01:27:26,319 --> 01:27:32,840
uh

1752
01:27:29,079 --> 01:27:36,800
he he's done a good job so far

1753
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:40,039
so uh my recommendation to this board

1754
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:42,760
and that board is to get over all of

1755
01:27:40,039 --> 01:27:48,560
this and get back to

1756
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:48,560
work get over it be done with it

1757
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:55,239
tonight because I've wasted way too much

1758
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:59,480
time on this crap the residents are

1759
01:27:55,238 --> 01:28:03,279
tired of it I'm tired of it get over it

1760
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:06,000
and let's get to work tonight so

1761
01:28:03,279 --> 01:28:10,840
whatever happens let's be done with it

1762
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:13,238
that goes for yep you guys and you four

1763
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:15,400
well I've got a question for Chris you

1764
01:28:13,238 --> 01:28:18,638
talk about ethics Chris

1765
01:28:15,399 --> 01:28:20,559
sure why weren't the other four involved

1766
01:28:18,639 --> 01:28:22,239
what made you guys decide to think that

1767
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:25,280
it was just you three that could do it

1768
01:28:22,238 --> 01:28:28,559
without including us it wasn't us three

1769
01:28:25,279 --> 01:28:30,800
who was it our lawyer explained exactly

1770
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:33,159
what happened and I'm sorry no I'm

1771
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:35,279
asking you before this letter was sent

1772
01:28:33,158 --> 01:28:38,839
to the Planning Commission why didn't

1773
01:28:35,279 --> 01:28:40,359
you guys include the other four members

1774
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:42,239
I'm asking you guys that can anybody

1775
01:28:40,359 --> 01:28:44,639
answer that I'm wondering why I didn't

1776
01:28:42,238 --> 01:28:45,959
come to the board table Yeah anybody

1777
01:28:44,639 --> 01:28:47,920
want to answer that that's fine their

1778
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,719
attendance was in question why weren't

1779
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:53,039
we talking about

1780
01:28:49,719 --> 01:28:54,639
it I pulled the letter back before it

1781
01:28:53,039 --> 01:28:56,639
could get to the board

1782
01:28:54,639 --> 01:28:59,159
I had to find out from residents and

1783
01:28:56,639 --> 01:29:01,118
stuff days later and I talked to you I

1784
01:28:59,158 --> 01:29:03,158
sent Greg I sent you letters when you

1785
01:29:01,118 --> 01:29:05,319
were down to talk to you about other

1786
01:29:03,158 --> 01:29:07,679
stuff and you were ready to tea off at

1787
01:29:05,319 --> 01:29:09,479
Margo that you were talking with Dean

1788
01:29:07,679 --> 01:29:11,279
and Chris the whole entire weekend

1789
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:14,479
before you did that but you couldn't

1790
01:29:11,279 --> 01:29:16,719
communicate with me on anything you did

1791
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:18,879
i' it's for you she's got the stuff I

1792
01:29:16,719 --> 01:29:21,158
sent it to t you we're going to tea off

1793
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:24,118
at Margo didn't have time to talk with

1794
01:29:21,158 --> 01:29:26,279
me but yet you spent the whole weekend

1795
01:29:24,118 --> 01:29:29,279
the whole week talking to the other two

1796
01:29:26,279 --> 01:29:31,079
and left me and everybody else out

1797
01:29:29,279 --> 01:29:32,759
that's the problem right there is you

1798
01:29:31,079 --> 01:29:35,519
guys don't see that you did anything

1799
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:37,880
wrong here that's it why weren't we

1800
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:39,440
included you really want to go there har

1801
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:41,039
yeah let's go there D you want me to

1802
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:43,319
bring out the text message between you

1803
01:29:41,039 --> 01:29:46,359
and Greg and I where you gave us the

1804
01:29:43,319 --> 01:29:48,559
language okay from your judge friend you

1805
01:29:46,359 --> 01:29:50,639
gave us the language to start this yeah

1806
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:54,600
when was it NOA she's got it here's what

1807
01:29:50,639 --> 01:29:56,560
I said you could have and sent us the to

1808
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,840
get this started okay don't tell us you

1809
01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:00,960
weren't aware of it I was she's got it

1810
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:03,039
it's fo you and here's the thing you

1811
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:05,520
could have talked to him for free and

1812
01:30:03,039 --> 01:30:07,600
did you ever call him I called him did

1813
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,840
you talk to him for free you could have

1814
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,239
talked to him you gave us the

1815
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:13,760
information did you talk to did you talk

1816
01:30:11,238 --> 01:30:15,759
to him did you talk to him don't need to

1817
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:18,760
why not you gave us the language I did

1818
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:20,239
we verified it in the OM book so what's

1819
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:22,800
the problem how come you didn't talk to

1820
01:30:20,238 --> 01:30:24,959
us you guys made the decision you want

1821
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:27,560
to go there Greg made the decision okay

1822
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:31,118
Greg did it I'm ready to

1823
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:33,239
vote hey hey hey hey I'm ready to vote

1824
01:30:31,118 --> 01:30:33,238
right

1825
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:41,800
now my my question to you Greg um I

1826
01:30:38,198 --> 01:30:43,279
apologize but how do you look at the

1827
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:46,000
Planning Commission

1828
01:30:43,279 --> 01:30:50,559
members and

1829
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:55,000
still support Chris on that board after

1830
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:55,000
all of this what do you tell them

1831
01:30:55,158 --> 01:31:00,879
what what get over it and get to work

1832
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:03,880
the same reason I've got you six

1833
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,880
here

1834
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:11,800
okay I'm not exactly happy with you six

1835
01:31:09,079 --> 01:31:14,760
but guess what I'm growing up enough to

1836
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:17,079
learn to work with you two and three and

1837
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:19,480
four and five and

1838
01:31:17,079 --> 01:31:21,359
six I'm growing up enough to learn to

1839
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,559
work with you and I'm telling the

1840
01:31:21,359 --> 01:31:25,679
Planning

1841
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:28,920
Commission to get get over it and get to

1842
01:31:25,679 --> 01:31:28,920
work with

1843
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:37,119
whoever that's my take on

1844
01:31:39,279 --> 01:31:44,198
so so where we go from

1845
01:31:45,679 --> 01:31:51,920
here make a

1846
01:31:48,319 --> 01:31:54,079
vote vote on what what's the motion what

1847
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:55,880
do you think what's number seven to

1848
01:31:54,079 --> 01:31:59,559
remove Chris is from the Planning

1849
01:31:55,880 --> 01:32:02,560
Commission let me hear it status H chck

1850
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:06,480
how's that done he makes the

1851
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:10,280
motion um this is just a charging issue

1852
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:12,839
this is not a hearing to remove him so

1853
01:32:10,279 --> 01:32:14,960
this is just to authorize a charge of

1854
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:17,400
malfeasance misfeasance or

1855
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:19,279
nonfeasance at the same time you do that

1856
01:32:17,399 --> 01:32:21,879
if you choose to go forward you have to

1857
01:32:19,279 --> 01:32:24,118
establish a public hearing date you have

1858
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:27,239
to establish a public hearing date at

1859
01:32:24,118 --> 01:32:28,960
that public hearing date then uh Mr Reta

1860
01:32:27,238 --> 01:32:31,039
have would have every right to answer

1861
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:34,960
the charges and defend them in any way

1862
01:32:31,039 --> 01:32:36,719
he feels is appropriate thank you so

1863
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:39,399
that's what the motion has to be to

1864
01:32:36,719 --> 01:32:41,880
bring charges correct if there is a

1865
01:32:39,399 --> 01:32:44,559
motion tonight the only motion there can

1866
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:46,239
be would be to charge the Township Board

1867
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:48,960
would be charging with the Mel feasant

1868
01:32:46,238 --> 01:32:52,519
nonfeasance or nonfeasance whatever it

1869
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:54,239
may be and if that is the case it's just

1870
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:56,840
simply a charge it doesn't doesn't mean

1871
01:32:54,238 --> 01:32:59,238
anybody is guilty innocent responsible

1872
01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:01,279
not responsible it's just a charge and

1873
01:32:59,238 --> 01:33:04,718
that would have to be a charge of him

1874
01:33:01,279 --> 01:33:07,079
doing that as a planning

1875
01:33:04,719 --> 01:33:09,480
commissioner is that correct that's

1876
01:33:07,079 --> 01:33:12,399
right not as a board member as a

1877
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:15,638
planning commissioner he's well he's

1878
01:33:12,399 --> 01:33:17,799
both it doesn't matter the the again I'm

1879
01:33:15,639 --> 01:33:19,480
going to repeat that the charge has to

1880
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,960
be brought up for misfeasance

1881
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:24,839
malfeasance or nonfeasance against an

1882
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:27,239
act that he did as a planning

1883
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:29,880
commissioner that's correct it's as a

1884
01:33:27,238 --> 01:33:32,359
sitting planning commissioner Thank you

1885
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:33,960
period just a planning commissioner none

1886
01:33:32,359 --> 01:33:37,118
of this other stuff has any to do with

1887
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:38,880
it none of what stuff are you asking the

1888
01:33:37,118 --> 01:33:41,719
censure any of that because that was

1889
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:44,440
censured as a board

1890
01:33:41,719 --> 01:33:46,560
member the the censures have nothing to

1891
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:49,000
do with malfeasance nonfeasance or

1892
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:51,320
misfeasance of the PC member thank you

1893
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:54,479
and everything that goes with that again

1894
01:33:51,319 --> 01:33:56,719
board side not Planning Commission side

1895
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:59,439
correct what do you want me to say I've

1896
01:33:56,719 --> 01:34:01,920
been telling you it's the actions if you

1897
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:04,759
are going to be charging somebody as a

1898
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:07,920
PC member you're charging them as a PC

1899
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:10,159
member with malfeasance nonfeasance or

1900
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:12,359
misfeasance it doesn't have to be with

1901
01:34:10,158 --> 01:34:15,198
respect to those censures but it can be

1902
01:34:12,359 --> 01:34:17,719
anything that that person has done while

1903
01:34:15,198 --> 01:34:21,719
he is a sitting member of the

1904
01:34:17,719 --> 01:34:21,719
PC thank

1905
01:34:24,118 --> 01:34:26,319
thank

1906
01:34:29,719 --> 01:34:32,719
you

1907
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:39,759
so I make a motion to remove Chris Retta

1908
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,840
from the Planning Commission on what

1909
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:43,119
charge please can't can't do that motion

1910
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:46,000
sorry

1911
01:34:43,118 --> 01:34:47,679
okay yeah it cannot be to remove if

1912
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:50,439
anything is going to happen tonight is

1913
01:34:47,679 --> 01:34:51,199
charging with the malfeasant nonfeasance

1914
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,839
or

1915
01:34:51,198 --> 01:34:56,719
misfeasance and if you are going to do

1916
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:58,400
that you should articulate the reasons

1917
01:34:56,719 --> 01:35:03,079
for the charge

1918
01:34:58,399 --> 01:35:03,079
okay the reasons you can read

1919
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:13,840
them I'll make a motion to charge Chris

1920
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:15,600
Reta with malfeasant and misfeasance

1921
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:19,159
with the public hearing to be scheduled

1922
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:21,480
as soon as legally possible on the basis

1923
01:35:19,158 --> 01:35:24,118
outline while serving as a member of the

1924
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:26,279
Planning Commission Mr rap comes by to

1925
01:35:24,118 --> 01:35:28,599
conceive and actively participate in

1926
01:35:26,279 --> 01:35:30,519
drafting a letter to the PC informing

1927
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:32,840
them that the Township Board was

1928
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:34,719
charging them with nonfeasance and

1929
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:37,480
requested they appear before the board

1930
01:35:34,719 --> 01:35:40,079
or a public hearing to explain their

1931
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:42,638
position conducted Township business in

1932
01:35:40,079 --> 01:35:45,639
the name of the Township Board and

1933
01:35:42,639 --> 01:35:48,359
thereby misrepresented the board and its

1934
01:35:45,639 --> 01:35:50,960
Authority language in the letter

1935
01:35:48,359 --> 01:35:53,238
directly stated that the Township board

1936
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:55,920
made a collective decision to charge

1937
01:35:53,238 --> 01:35:57,759
planning Commissioners with nonfeasance

1938
01:35:55,920 --> 01:36:01,960
even though there was never a public

1939
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:05,199
meeting held a quorum present or vote

1940
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:07,560
taken Mr Reta was also present upon

1941
01:36:05,198 --> 01:36:10,319
delivery knowing the letter held false

1942
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:13,080
statements that would adversely impact

1943
01:36:10,319 --> 01:36:15,079
fellow planning

1944
01:36:13,079 --> 01:36:16,639
Commissioners can I ask a question did

1945
01:36:15,079 --> 01:36:18,880
he do that as a planning commissioner or

1946
01:36:16,639 --> 01:36:21,359
as a board member yes I said while

1947
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:23,319
serving as a planning

1948
01:36:21,359 --> 01:36:24,920
commissioner so you have documents that

1949
01:36:23,319 --> 01:36:27,599
you did as a planning

1950
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:30,480
commissioner cuz to then why did you why

1951
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:34,119
did you Center him as a a board member

1952
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:36,599
for them reasons charge you can't do

1953
01:36:34,118 --> 01:36:38,960
both is that correct Char you can do

1954
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:41,039
both the board has two actions it can

1955
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:43,600
take when Miss conduct occurs one is

1956
01:36:41,039 --> 01:36:45,760
censure and two is removal from

1957
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:49,280
committees it's not a

1958
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:50,960
committee it's not a removal from

1959
01:36:49,279 --> 01:36:53,759
correct Chu it's not a committee it's

1960
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:56,520
the Planning Commission okay

1961
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:58,719
and if they're going to take the action

1962
01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:00,199
against him as a board member they can't

1963
01:36:58,719 --> 01:37:01,880
take the same action they can't Double

1964
01:37:00,198 --> 01:37:03,799
Jeopardy him by taking it against a

1965
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:05,800
planning commissioner he did it as a

1966
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:07,719
board member or as a planning

1967
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:11,880
commissioner the

1968
01:37:07,719 --> 01:37:14,639
censure was as a board member this is

1969
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:18,079
removal as ex official to the Planning

1970
01:37:14,639 --> 01:37:21,400
Commission if he did that as a board

1971
01:37:18,079 --> 01:37:23,960
member and you censored him he did not

1972
01:37:21,399 --> 01:37:25,719
do it as a planning commissioner if he

1973
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:27,679
did it as a planning commissioner then

1974
01:37:25,719 --> 01:37:30,639
he did not do it as a board

1975
01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:33,239
member he he can't act in two boards at

1976
01:37:30,639 --> 01:37:33,239
the same

1977
01:37:34,359 --> 01:37:37,359
time

1978
01:37:38,719 --> 01:37:44,118
sh that correct the motion you want my

1979
01:37:42,359 --> 01:37:45,920
legal opinion yes that's what we're

1980
01:37:44,118 --> 01:37:49,679
looking legal we would like legal here

1981
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:52,079
that's you can act as a PC member and as

1982
01:37:49,679 --> 01:37:55,440
a board of trustee member at the same

1983
01:37:52,079 --> 01:37:55,439
time how thank you

1984
01:37:56,520 --> 01:38:01,239
how how is that

1985
01:37:58,238 --> 01:38:01,238
possible

1986
01:38:01,399 --> 01:38:05,158
represents but if

1987
01:38:07,158 --> 01:38:15,039
you okay so we have a motion

1988
01:38:12,359 --> 01:38:18,000
support what could you reread the motion

1989
01:38:15,039 --> 01:38:22,439
please I'm not clear on what it

1990
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:24,920
is the motion to charge Chris Retta with

1991
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:26,879
malfeasant and Miss feens with the

1992
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:29,760
public hearing to be scheduled as soon

1993
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,760
as legally

1994
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:37,400
possible and what are the what are the

1995
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:41,279
charges of read me again me Miss feens

1996
01:38:37,399 --> 01:38:44,719
and Mal feens pertaining to what

1997
01:38:41,279 --> 01:38:47,238
evidence what what things things I'm

1998
01:38:44,719 --> 01:38:49,880
sorry I already stated that the first

1999
01:38:47,238 --> 01:38:51,198
time that you conspired to conceive and

2000
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:54,000
actively

2001
01:38:51,198 --> 01:38:55,839
participating participated in drafting a

2002
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,560
letter to the Planning Commission

2003
01:38:55,840 --> 01:39:00,000
informing them that the Township Board

2004
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:01,800
was charging them with nonfeasance and

2005
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:04,118
requested they appear before the board

2006
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:06,760
for a public hearing to explain their

2007
01:39:04,118 --> 01:39:08,319
position you also conducted Township

2008
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:10,800
business in the name of the Township

2009
01:39:08,319 --> 01:39:12,079
Board and thereby misrepresented the

2010
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:14,480
board and its

2011
01:39:12,079 --> 01:39:16,719
Authority the language written in the

2012
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:19,359
letter directly stated that the Township

2013
01:39:16,719 --> 01:39:21,239
board made a collective decision to

2014
01:39:19,359 --> 01:39:23,479
charge planning Commissioners with

2015
01:39:21,238 --> 01:39:26,479
nonfeasance even though there was never

2016
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:28,399
a publicly held meeting or Quorum

2017
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:31,439
present or vote

2018
01:39:28,399 --> 01:39:33,118
taken you also were present upon letter

2019
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:35,238
delivery to the Planning Commission

2020
01:39:33,118 --> 01:39:37,719
members knowing that the letter held

2021
01:39:35,238 --> 01:39:41,479
false statements that would adversely

2022
01:39:37,719 --> 01:39:41,480
impact the fellow planning

2023
01:39:42,399 --> 01:39:48,158
Commissioners so in light of any

2024
01:39:44,599 --> 01:39:50,000
evidence that to the contrary that's

2025
01:39:48,158 --> 01:39:53,719
what I've made a motion do we have

2026
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:55,719
someone that support roll call okay

2027
01:39:53,719 --> 01:39:59,840
we're going to do a roll call vote Chris

2028
01:39:55,719 --> 01:40:03,359
Reta no Dean hos no Jennifer Eden yes

2029
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:07,719
Greg KS no Herman Ferguson yes Sarah

2030
01:40:03,359 --> 01:40:07,719
dolman Jersey yes Pam moer

2031
01:40:13,599 --> 01:40:21,960
yes okay so I have a question um for you

2032
01:40:18,719 --> 01:40:24,039
um Chuck regarding a public hearing um

2033
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:27,000
so Mr rapata state stated that he will

2034
01:40:24,039 --> 01:40:29,639
not be in town for our next meeting so

2035
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:31,800
do we move it to the following meeting I

2036
01:40:29,639 --> 01:40:33,719
would strongly recommend that you do it

2037
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:35,239
at a time that he can be here because he

2038
01:40:33,719 --> 01:40:37,439
has an absolute right to defend and

2039
01:40:35,238 --> 01:40:41,198
answer these charges

2040
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:41,198
sure attendance doesn't

2041
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:52,440
matters

2042
01:40:47,399 --> 01:40:52,439
so let's look at the date here

2043
01:40:55,760 --> 01:41:02,920
Mr repeta will you be here on March

2044
01:41:00,039 --> 01:41:06,198
25th no we've got something going

2045
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:10,679
on can he answer I have to look at my

2046
01:41:06,198 --> 01:41:15,638
calendar okay we we can we can schedule

2047
01:41:10,679 --> 01:41:20,239
it all right we move on to miscellaneous

2048
01:41:15,639 --> 01:41:20,239
business do we have any miscellaneous

2049
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:27,800
business okay uh

2050
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:31,159
um last uh public

2051
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:31,159
remarks yes

2052
01:41:31,599 --> 01:41:38,840
Scott Scott Li I'm going to say it

2053
01:41:36,238 --> 01:41:41,238
again we work together on a lot of

2054
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:43,279
issues in this C with you guys and I

2055
01:41:41,238 --> 01:41:45,519
asked you to take accountability all I

2056
01:41:43,279 --> 01:41:47,118
asked you guys for please take

2057
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:50,760
accountability for what you

2058
01:41:47,118 --> 01:41:52,319
did Dean I walked into that meeting late

2059
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,880
that day I sat down between you and

2060
01:41:52,319 --> 01:41:55,399
great

2061
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:57,760
when the reading was get ready to

2062
01:41:55,399 --> 01:42:01,359
adjourn you told me stick

2063
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:02,920
around Greg's going to got some prepared

2064
01:42:01,359 --> 01:42:04,839
documents to hand out to the planing

2065
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:07,679
commission so you're well aware of those

2066
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:11,800
documents gu what you told never mind it

2067
01:42:07,679 --> 01:42:14,440
okay that's fine so what's your attorney

2068
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:19,039
okay so what's your attorney's saying is

2069
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:21,079
that Mr KS jumped out of the the car

2070
01:42:19,039 --> 01:42:24,800
robbed the bank you guys drove the car

2071
01:42:21,079 --> 01:42:26,359
so you're no longer guilty

2072
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,880
basically that's what you did you guys

2073
01:42:26,359 --> 01:42:29,799
were involved in this just because you

2074
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:32,880
didn't sign the paper you were

2075
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:34,719
involved I'm sorry Greg I'm sorry all

2076
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:40,359
the years you were on the zba shame on

2077
01:42:34,719 --> 01:42:43,920
you shame on you really shame on you I

2078
01:42:40,359 --> 01:42:46,319
mean I've never seen so much CRA you

2079
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:48,319
want to let it go so we can do it again

2080
01:42:46,319 --> 01:42:50,599
we just already I already just told you

2081
01:42:48,319 --> 01:42:52,559
it's already happened again when you

2082
01:42:50,599 --> 01:42:55,119
went over to you ran over to the I mean

2083
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:58,039
after you put out of warning next you

2084
01:42:55,118 --> 01:43:00,759
ran over to Bare Naked

2085
01:42:58,039 --> 01:43:03,840
woods and tried to cover to me it look

2086
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:05,280
like a cut for up and then come on what

2087
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:07,039
you had no business you went behind the

2088
01:43:05,279 --> 01:43:09,118
board you went behind every maybe you

2089
01:43:07,039 --> 01:43:11,760
didn't have the right but you notifi

2090
01:43:09,118 --> 01:43:13,719
nobody not zoning but you want to did it

2091
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,560
on your own again and then Chris for you

2092
01:43:13,719 --> 01:43:19,000
to go over there I mean I just cannot

2093
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:19,920
believe friends I'm a yes hey hey hey

2094
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:24,479
hey

2095
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:26,158
heyen I listen I don't hate anybody but

2096
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:28,079
you know what I've been come to these

2097
01:43:26,158 --> 01:43:29,598
meetings for decades Terry's the only

2098
01:43:28,079 --> 01:43:31,599
one here has been long and you can ask

2099
01:43:29,599 --> 01:43:33,159
her I went up against everybody I

2100
01:43:31,599 --> 01:43:34,079
thought was doing wrong whether I liked

2101
01:43:33,158 --> 01:43:37,158
them or

2102
01:43:34,079 --> 01:43:41,198
not if I'm wrong I'll admit it but I

2103
01:43:37,158 --> 01:43:41,198
always call it out all

2104
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:46,799
right you know it's just not right you

2105
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:49,800
guys are I mean take

2106
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:51,480
responsibility and let's get going with

2107
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:53,239
this Township but you got to take

2108
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:54,718
responsibility you can't sit there put

2109
01:43:53,238 --> 01:43:55,799
her all on great and said well we just

2110
01:43:54,719 --> 01:43:58,960
drove the

2111
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,960
car come

2112
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:10,319
on anybody

2113
01:44:18,359 --> 01:44:23,679
else I'm pretty loud so I might not need

2114
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:26,480
this my name is Becky malar my husband

2115
01:44:23,679 --> 01:44:29,440
and I Mike own be naked wood um I do

2116
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:31,678
want to address the the township we

2117
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:33,759
received a letter basically before our

2118
01:44:31,679 --> 01:44:36,399
party that we had which was with

2119
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:40,320
basically my immediate friends and

2120
01:44:36,399 --> 01:44:43,960
family Bas a big Tupperware party okay

2121
01:44:40,319 --> 01:44:47,000
and um Scott and the reason I know this

2122
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:50,560
is because the township sent us a letter

2123
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:52,359
to our home got to address us oh sorry

2124
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:54,679
the township sent us a letter to our

2125
01:44:52,359 --> 01:44:58,960
home and they unfortunately did not

2126
01:44:54,679 --> 01:45:00,719
remove Scott's name from the back of the

2127
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:03,279
like he was the one that sent the email

2128
01:45:00,719 --> 01:45:06,039
to the township so I would just maybe

2129
01:45:03,279 --> 01:45:09,279
let you guys know that your Carrie who's

2130
01:45:06,039 --> 01:45:11,760
the one that mailed it to us um was very

2131
01:45:09,279 --> 01:45:13,719
kind to let us know that Mr Dietrich

2132
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:16,520
back here obviously has it out for us

2133
01:45:13,719 --> 01:45:20,198
for at our small little business right

2134
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:23,719
and hosting our health and hormones

2135
01:45:20,198 --> 01:45:27,079
seminar heaven forbid right I don't

2136
01:45:23,719 --> 01:45:30,319
understand why he's coming after us I'm

2137
01:45:27,079 --> 01:45:33,000
not really sure so I just want to

2138
01:45:30,319 --> 01:45:36,679
address that and let them know that we

2139
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:39,520
are aware who told on us this is

2140
01:45:36,679 --> 01:45:42,920
childish literally childish I'm I'm like

2141
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:46,400
mind blown we're trying to create a

2142
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:48,118
small business we're a husband and wife

2143
01:45:46,399 --> 01:45:50,198
we feel like you guys are not on our

2144
01:45:48,118 --> 01:45:52,639
side we have people like this that are

2145
01:45:50,198 --> 01:45:55,319
coming after us for no apparent reason

2146
01:45:52,639 --> 01:45:57,480
like literally no reason stalking our

2147
01:45:55,319 --> 01:45:59,198
social media accounts and literally

2148
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,959
coming to you and Reporting back on

2149
01:45:59,198 --> 01:46:03,118
whatever false information that he's

2150
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:06,359
getting Mr KS has never been to my

2151
01:46:03,118 --> 01:46:09,960
residence I've only seen him one other

2152
01:46:06,359 --> 01:46:12,519
time and that was in passing here I've

2153
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:13,719
never ever met him in person except

2154
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,840
passing here when we came to get

2155
01:46:13,719 --> 01:46:18,039
something notorized so he's never been

2156
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:20,000
to my home have I spoken to him on the

2157
01:46:18,039 --> 01:46:22,519
phone yes because when I received the

2158
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:24,520
letter from Mr Dietrich uh ratting us

2159
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:28,239
out about about having a on a Tupperware

2160
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:30,080
party right um I called Mr KS because

2161
01:46:28,238 --> 01:46:32,959
that's what I was advised to do since

2162
01:46:30,079 --> 01:46:34,519
he's the supervisor we sent a letter to

2163
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:38,560
you guys and we received no

2164
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:38,560
communication back so that's

2165
01:46:39,118 --> 01:46:42,319
enough thank

2166
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:48,359
you anyone

2167
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:55,158
else all right yes oh no one else is

2168
01:46:54,079 --> 01:46:58,479
gonna

2169
01:46:55,158 --> 01:46:58,479
speak all right

2170
01:47:00,118 --> 01:47:06,479
Janette okay so um Janette Retta tyone

2171
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:11,480
Township um resident do you need this

2172
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:14,238
you don't need this um yeah because the

2173
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:17,638
video they can't always hear all right

2174
01:47:14,238 --> 01:47:17,638
thank you is it actually recording

2175
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:23,920
tonight okay um so instead of correcting

2176
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:26,400
the mistake of issuing centry letters

2177
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:29,039
with no legal citations no evidence no

2178
01:47:26,399 --> 01:47:30,879
due process this board is doubled down

2179
01:47:29,039 --> 01:47:33,519
choosing to move forward with a

2180
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:35,560
politically motivated removal of Chris

2181
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:37,599
from the Planning Commission Now this

2182
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:39,199
isn't about policy and it's not about

2183
01:47:37,599 --> 01:47:41,880
what's best for the township this is

2184
01:47:39,198 --> 01:47:44,000
about power and control and everyone can

2185
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:46,118
see it and let's be honest about what's

2186
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:48,880
Happening Here certain members of this

2187
01:47:46,118 --> 01:47:51,439
board have been determined to punish

2188
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:52,840
Chris De and Greg from day one you

2189
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,198
didn't like that they asked question

2190
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:56,960
questions and you didn't like that they

2191
01:47:54,198 --> 01:47:59,039
challenge the way things were done the

2192
01:47:56,960 --> 01:48:01,960
centers had no legal basis but nobody

2193
01:47:59,039 --> 01:48:04,118
wants to listen to that and instead of

2194
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:06,359
recognizing good work that's been done

2195
01:48:04,118 --> 01:48:08,439
you're removing him for no stated reason

2196
01:48:06,359 --> 01:48:11,279
because you can and all you have to do

2197
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:14,000
is ask people on Hogan Road cuz the four

2198
01:48:11,279 --> 01:48:17,399
of you one two three of you have been

2199
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:20,319
here forever and nothing has gotten done

2200
01:48:17,399 --> 01:48:24,399
on Hogan Road Chris came in he listened

2201
01:48:20,319 --> 01:48:24,399
to them and he moved it along

2202
01:48:26,079 --> 01:48:29,319
so you made it clear that you're going

2203
01:48:27,319 --> 01:48:31,679
to weaponize your positions to remove

2204
01:48:29,319 --> 01:48:33,279
those who don't fall in line you made it

2205
01:48:31,679 --> 01:48:35,319
clear that you'll ignore the voices of

2206
01:48:33,279 --> 01:48:37,238
residents who voted for accountability

2207
01:48:35,319 --> 01:48:40,840
and instead use your time in office to

2208
01:48:37,238 --> 01:48:44,479
settle political scores and please

2209
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:47,079
don't uh uh forget that Herman knew what

2210
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:48,439
was going on Herman knew exactly what

2211
01:48:47,079 --> 01:48:50,359
was going on that's why we all

2212
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:53,879
campaigned so hard for him he wanted

2213
01:48:50,359 --> 01:48:55,759
exactly what Greg Dean and Chris wanted

2214
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,639
to clean things up and start holding

2215
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:59,639
people

2216
01:48:56,639 --> 01:49:03,000
accountable he wanted it but someone got

2217
01:48:59,639 --> 01:49:03,000
to him first

2218
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:09,399
right so um what happens when Chris

2219
01:49:08,079 --> 01:49:12,599
takes us to

2220
01:49:09,399 --> 01:49:14,238
court way to go guys and what happens

2221
01:49:12,599 --> 01:49:17,239
when this Township is forced to answer

2222
01:49:14,238 --> 01:49:19,479
for abusing its power to silence elected

2223
01:49:17,238 --> 01:49:21,678
officials and what happens when local

2224
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:23,718
residents like my friend who just got up

2225
01:49:21,679 --> 01:49:25,679
who run a business here who have been

2226
01:49:23,719 --> 01:49:28,239
targeted simply because they are my

2227
01:49:25,679 --> 01:49:31,239
personal friend this Planning Commission

2228
01:49:28,238 --> 01:49:32,919
lets stuff go for years people not in

2229
01:49:31,238 --> 01:49:34,559
compliance years and years and years

2230
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:37,480
you've heard Scott get up and complain

2231
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:40,119
about them and they do nothing but as

2232
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:42,799
soon as they see and find a videotape oh

2233
01:49:40,118 --> 01:49:45,439
my gosh janette's friends with the Mals

2234
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:48,199
what are they doing and now they want to

2235
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:51,759
go after her look at what Kevin Ross is

2236
01:49:48,198 --> 01:49:55,960
doing online what he's doing to malign

2237
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:58,000
them to damage what's so funny Herman

2238
01:49:55,960 --> 01:50:00,960
you think it's funny you doing laughing

2239
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:00,960
with Cunningham back

2240
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:07,759
there

2241
01:50:05,319 --> 01:50:10,920
yeah I want a couple more seconds cuz I

2242
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:10,920
didn't start for 15

2243
01:50:11,238 --> 01:50:17,399
seconds pardon me can't not would you

2244
01:50:15,039 --> 01:50:19,479
let everybody else go over great 15

2245
01:50:17,399 --> 01:50:22,759
seconds cuz I didn't get start for 15

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01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:25,598
seconds he has been L maligning them

2247
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:28,199
online and what he's doing is all

2248
01:50:25,599 --> 01:50:30,119
because Cunningham never took control of

2249
01:50:28,198 --> 01:50:33,359
these people that are attacking

2250
01:50:30,118 --> 01:50:35,519
residents I'm taking control sit down

2251
01:50:33,359 --> 01:50:38,000
please so you need to take control of

2252
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:41,740
what's going on right by the way the

2253
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:44,810
person who brought up gentl he like

2254
01:50:41,739 --> 01:50:44,809
[Music]

2255
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:54,639
toap Jette Janette Janette please

2256
01:50:50,359 --> 01:50:54,639
Janette please sit down please

2257
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:57,560
yes

2258
01:51:04,679 --> 01:51:11,399
bill so I just have one more thing about

2259
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:16,119
the Integrity of Chris Retta to sit

2260
01:51:11,399 --> 01:51:17,960
there and lie at a public meeting and I

2261
01:51:16,118 --> 01:51:21,198
simply ask for an

2262
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:24,560
apology and do you think I could get

2263
01:51:21,198 --> 01:51:24,559
that that's

2264
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,800
Integrity

2265
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:43,639
yes can you hear me yep okay I'm Sue ol

2266
01:51:41,238 --> 01:51:48,039
I live in Tyrone Township for 20 plus

2267
01:51:43,639 --> 01:51:50,159
years I'd like to express my frustration

2268
01:51:48,039 --> 01:51:52,800
with some of you who have pressed to run

2269
01:51:50,158 --> 01:51:55,359
on a platform of transparency

2270
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:58,000
yet have chosen to follow your own

2271
01:51:55,359 --> 01:51:59,960
agendas after making the decision to

2272
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:01,599
your mouth honey after making the

2273
01:51:59,960 --> 01:52:03,520
decisions to charge the Planning

2274
01:52:01,599 --> 01:52:06,520
Commission members with non- feance

2275
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:08,239
without including the entire board

2276
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:10,280
that's the big part you didn't include

2277
01:52:08,238 --> 01:52:13,479
everybody you should accept that you

2278
01:52:10,279 --> 01:52:15,198
made a mistake learn from it and get on

2279
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:17,519
with conducting the business of our

2280
01:52:15,198 --> 01:52:20,879
Township I have to agree with Greg on

2281
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:23,960
that get to business the imitate the

2282
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:26,199
intimidation tactics need need to stop

2283
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:29,319
you were elected to serve and represent

2284
01:52:26,198 --> 01:52:31,759
the residents it saddens me to see our

2285
01:52:29,319 --> 01:52:34,799
community ridiculed and embarrassed

2286
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:36,520
because of your contentious Behavior we

2287
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:40,360
deserve

2288
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:45,960
better thank you

2289
01:52:40,359 --> 01:52:45,960
than no not appropriate

2290
01:52:50,639 --> 01:52:58,239
sorry Garrett ladart Road um just a few

2291
01:52:55,760 --> 01:53:00,560
things um I'm part of the Planning

2292
01:52:58,238 --> 01:53:01,879
Commission uh do you guys have my

2293
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:04,039
attendance

2294
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:06,639
record what do you have my attendance

2295
01:53:04,039 --> 01:53:09,719
record for last year they were the best

2296
01:53:06,639 --> 01:53:12,039
ones of all yeah I'll tell you that okay

2297
01:53:09,719 --> 01:53:13,439
your attendance record was fine the

2298
01:53:12,039 --> 01:53:17,039
exact number in front of me but I do

2299
01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:19,479
remember yours was up in the 70% okay I

2300
01:53:17,039 --> 01:53:23,359
think I can help okay here's everybody's

2301
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:23,359
attendance record since 2019

2302
01:53:23,639 --> 01:53:26,560
one thing you guys hav't talked about is

2303
01:53:25,279 --> 01:53:28,679
who's been here and who hasn't never

2304
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:31,800
heard

2305
01:53:28,679 --> 01:53:31,800
those they

2306
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:42,198
are so the 70% isn't

2307
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:44,679
well said she was

2308
01:53:42,198 --> 01:53:47,479
interrupted go ahead K I'm

2309
01:53:44,679 --> 01:53:49,118
sorry I guess that's I I wanted to know

2310
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:51,319
if you have all the attendance records I

2311
01:53:49,118 --> 01:53:53,238
just I I have never seen it I don't know

2312
01:53:51,319 --> 01:53:55,078
what it is there's there's been times I

2313
01:53:53,238 --> 01:53:58,198
can't make it for reasons for my

2314
01:53:55,078 --> 01:54:00,639
daughter or for my wife um that's just

2315
01:53:58,198 --> 01:54:03,519
that's part of having a family and I run

2316
01:54:00,639 --> 01:54:05,960
a business so yeah I wanted to know that

2317
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:07,679
cuz I've never seen it and I you know

2318
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:10,960
Greg you gave me a letter that said my

2319
01:54:07,679 --> 01:54:13,760
attendance was piss po to say the least

2320
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:16,960
so um the other thing I want to know

2321
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:16,960
this record it's the same

2322
01:54:17,039 --> 01:54:21,960
thing okay um thank you um the other

2323
01:54:20,399 --> 01:54:25,000
thing I want to know that nobody's

2324
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:27,880
brought up is what kind of cost have we

2325
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:31,679
this is me as a resident paying taxes

2326
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:35,639
how much has this cost us so far does

2327
01:54:31,679 --> 01:54:38,199
anyone have a tally on that too

2328
01:54:35,639 --> 01:54:40,239
much I mean still waiting for some

2329
01:54:38,198 --> 01:54:43,158
invoices I mean is that going to be a

2330
01:54:40,238 --> 01:54:44,718
public knowledge like certainly will I

2331
01:54:43,158 --> 01:54:46,638
think that would be appropriate for

2332
01:54:44,719 --> 01:54:49,000
everyone in this room to know what's

2333
01:54:46,639 --> 01:54:53,639
going on where their money is going my

2334
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:57,560
money um and the last thing is Greg I

2335
01:54:53,639 --> 01:54:59,800
know you you know my family Dean I've

2336
01:54:57,560 --> 01:55:00,800
done business with you you've been on my

2337
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:04,360
job

2338
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:06,679
sites you call me I give you an

2339
01:55:04,359 --> 01:55:10,198
answer I've been professional with both

2340
01:55:06,679 --> 01:55:12,639
of you Chris I don't know much about you

2341
01:55:10,198 --> 01:55:15,198
all I know is since I got on the

2342
01:55:12,639 --> 01:55:17,480
Planning Commission all you did was

2343
01:55:15,198 --> 01:55:19,879
yelled and tried to intimidate us the

2344
01:55:17,479 --> 01:55:21,399
whole time saying that we don't do

2345
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,840
things the right way we're doing things

2346
01:55:21,399 --> 01:55:26,519
behind scenes

2347
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:28,719
I don't know why you think that I'm I'm

2348
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:30,920
here for a reason just like you you're

2349
01:55:28,719 --> 01:55:33,279
here for a reason right but you come

2350
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:37,199
from this side and then you come over

2351
01:55:33,279 --> 01:55:39,198
here and you're doing exactly what you

2352
01:55:37,198 --> 01:55:42,359
were saying that we were

2353
01:55:39,198 --> 01:55:44,279
doing do you not like you don't get that

2354
01:55:42,359 --> 01:55:48,000
that doesn't process in your head makes

2355
01:55:44,279 --> 01:55:49,759
no sense so I guess my big point is Greg

2356
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:51,960
you have my phone number you know where

2357
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:53,960
I live you've been to my house Dean you

2358
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:56,279
have my phone number you know where I

2359
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:59,319
live you live right next to my parents I

2360
01:55:56,279 --> 01:56:01,559
see you all the time Chris I wouldn't

2361
01:55:59,319 --> 01:56:04,359
even care less if I pass you on the side

2362
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:08,079
of the street to talk to you you guys

2363
01:56:04,359 --> 01:56:10,920
know who I am call me apologize and I'll

2364
01:56:08,078 --> 01:56:13,759
move on I'm a big boy there's you know

2365
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:15,599
what my last profession if someone stuck

2366
01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:17,239
me the wrong way guess what you're going

2367
01:56:15,599 --> 01:56:18,760
to the face off next time I'm going to

2368
01:56:17,238 --> 01:56:19,638
line up with you we're going to fight

2369
01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:22,480
and then we're going to have a beer

2370
01:56:19,639 --> 01:56:24,400
after the game that's all I'm asking for

2371
01:56:22,479 --> 01:56:26,479
that's all Bill's asking for it ain't

2372
01:56:24,399 --> 01:56:30,198
hard it's not rocket

2373
01:56:26,479 --> 01:56:31,489
science that's all I got thank you

2374
01:56:30,198 --> 01:56:34,589
thanks

2375
01:56:31,489 --> 01:56:34,590
[Music]

2376
01:56:49,399 --> 01:56:55,598
Garr so what I have here guys

2377
01:56:53,439 --> 01:56:57,839
is all the foyer documents that I got

2378
01:56:55,599 --> 01:57:00,400
when I put a foyer request in to you

2379
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:04,119
Greg to you Dean to

2380
01:57:00,399 --> 01:57:06,238
Chris and outside of the fact that I'd

2381
01:57:04,118 --> 01:57:08,279
never got everything back which has been

2382
01:57:06,238 --> 01:57:12,479
reported to the

2383
01:57:08,279 --> 01:57:16,279
AG I I was a little I was a little

2384
01:57:12,479 --> 01:57:19,399
shocked and a little saddened that in Li

2385
01:57:16,279 --> 01:57:23,279
of transparency that you guys called for

2386
01:57:19,399 --> 01:57:24,679
you guys wrongfully blamed us on the PC

2387
01:57:23,279 --> 01:57:25,920
it's saying that we were having backd

2388
01:57:24,679 --> 01:57:28,199
door meetings and we were doing all

2389
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:30,960
these these these these these things

2390
01:57:28,198 --> 01:57:34,279
that was completely untrue and Chris you

2391
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:36,279
would State this all the time all the

2392
01:57:34,279 --> 01:57:38,359
time when you would go and try to come

2393
01:57:36,279 --> 01:57:40,759
up against I mean even the board this is

2394
01:57:38,359 --> 01:57:44,719
a regular thing that you would try to do

2395
01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:46,400
to belittle us to go and try to to say

2396
01:57:44,719 --> 01:57:48,359
that oh well we're doing we're doing

2397
01:57:46,399 --> 01:57:51,000
something wrong when we knew inside we

2398
01:57:48,359 --> 01:57:53,118
were not additionally i p the foyer out

2399
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:55,078
and I really thank you and I thank your

2400
01:57:53,118 --> 01:57:57,759
wife for actually advertising it if you

2401
01:57:55,078 --> 01:57:59,679
go to Tyrone Township watch.org you she

2402
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:02,440
has given me free advertising from her

2403
01:57:59,679 --> 01:58:05,359
Facebook page you guys in the public can

2404
01:58:02,439 --> 01:58:08,198
go and see all those Foya documents for

2405
01:58:05,359 --> 01:58:12,839
yourself on the

2406
01:58:08,198 --> 01:58:12,839
website what Tyrone Township

2407
01:58:14,118 --> 01:58:21,198
watch go check it out he's created a

2408
01:58:17,679 --> 01:58:21,199
website nowbody

2409
01:58:22,359 --> 01:58:25,118
is there anybody

2410
01:58:27,359 --> 01:58:35,559
else her Schultz Sil L States number two

2411
01:58:33,158 --> 01:58:37,598
want to thank the board for standing up

2412
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:39,800
for what's

2413
01:58:37,599 --> 01:58:42,840
right it's terrible when you have to

2414
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:48,039
listen to someone belittle everyone talk

2415
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:51,159
down to them and then read the laws to

2416
01:58:48,039 --> 01:58:53,920
you someone can't understand what the

2417
01:58:51,158 --> 01:58:55,920
intent of the Lord law is instead of

2418
01:58:53,920 --> 01:59:02,039
what the letter of the law

2419
01:58:55,920 --> 01:59:04,520
is thank you you represent me in Tyrone

2420
01:59:02,039 --> 01:59:07,519
Township you

2421
01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:07,520
don't

2422
01:59:12,679 --> 01:59:16,078
wow is that

2423
01:59:16,599 --> 01:59:23,639
it all

2424
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:27,119
right I guess we

2425
01:59:23,639 --> 01:59:30,520
need a motion to adjourn

2426
01:59:27,118 --> 01:59:30,519
someone all in

2427
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:35,079
favor you first

2428
01:59:35,399 --> 01:59:40,118
Jennifer either way I'm good

2429
01:59:49,739 --> 01:59:55,078
[Music]

2430
01:59:52,719 --> 01:59:55,078
our next

2431
01:59:56,539 --> 01:59:59,640
[Music]

2432
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:10,310
steps

2433
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:11,479
later Tre string myself

2434
02:00:10,310 --> 02:00:14,639
[Music]

2435
02:00:11,479 --> 02:00:17,919
up that's an

2436
02:00:14,639 --> 02:00:17,920
idea you

2437
02:00:18,599 --> 02:00:23,960
so don't tell me you kick the horse too

2438
02:00:24,840 --> 02:00:28,288
[Music]

2439
02:00:28,359 --> 02:00:33,598
if it were easy everybody yes